St. Elmo's Fire

  • “Since most people writing Pokemon fanfictions on http://www.fanfiction.net are writing anime fics anyways maybe you should consider moving over to archiveofourown where you can find almost exclusively […]

    • Well at least you admitted no one uses it.

      I can’t tell if he’s being sarcastic or genuinely missed the point of the sarcasm.

      Once again people on this site do not give a fuck about tags on this website, if you’re going to be anal about it I’d once again like to direct you to archive. Where you can live out your pleasure of looking through the countless options of tags that will suit your style.

      Annnd that’s when he joins the list of fanfic writers who should learn about the site before they start writing. Just because you don’t give a fuck about them doesn’t mean everyone else doesn’t give a fuck either. Hell, I knew how to use the tags on my first story despite only discovering the site a day prior to posting it.
      No excuse for being a lazy bum, man.

  • No PM, sadly, they just quietly blocked me.

  • And as I say to the people writing pokemon as ordinary high schoolers, you have other options if that’s what you want to do! Other pokemon, even, as awful as the gardevoir stuff is. I just don’t understand why people look at the wealth of options they have and actively choose the one that doesn’t align with what they want to write.

  • Not much of note today.

    Anime count: 11

    Hi! I’m doing a round of reviews around the site, hoping to help give people constructive criticism instead of just vague appreciation or flames. If you do choose to t […]

    • You said in the author’s note this wasn’t porn.

      I’m looking forward to the PM for that one.

      I’d just like to note that this is a fic written in Spanish, and Blaze still gave her spam review (in English).

      ¿Por qué?

      • No PM, sadly, they just quietly blocked me.

        • Dammit, I was hoping for one. “Well, you see, I wrote it like that as a take that against people who write like that.”
           
          The response suggests they are ashamed about being called out on it, though.

    • Hey, anything to make Elmo look wrong, right?

      Also, Istwill says faux feminist like feminism is a bad thing. So doesn’t that make him the bad guy since it means he clearly thinks women look at themselves like meat for the attention and not because men are perverts?

       

      (I say this as I try to figure out how I’m gonna have a male character complain about the price of tampons without being anvilicious)

    • I tried to review that story because of the term “moemon” and “moeballs.” As far as I can tell they just want to have sex with pokemon short of writing outright lemons. Moemon isn’t a new “world” it’s just sexualized pokemon written because of the author’s whims.

      Chapter 11 contains this promising line:  

      Diego groaned at the sore feeling of his lower area, which was understandable. He had just had sex with three of his Moemon at once, so his dick was still recovering.

      I was surprised that I was blocked and thus the review didn’t post.

  • But what’s frustrating is that they can’t even do xenophilia right, as I complained in the dragonair story. They can’t stop going on about how the freaky monster they want to screw thinks their self-insert’s standard human beauty ideal is so hot followed by zero logistical issues with making out with muzzles. Like, if you’re gonna be writing…[Read more]

  • Actually no the Pokemon games are suited for stories as we keep getting stories with each passing game. As several novalizations have proven it an be done.

    Oh hey, I haven’t heard that before! Could you show me these “several novelizations” that made it to completion?

  • Well, the review is still on the corresponding review post (and will be foreverrrr). The story was “Bat Attitude”.

  • “Pokemon species names are canonically capitalized no matter the context. They are proper nouns, not common nouns.

    My author’s notes are clearly distinguished from the rest of the story and nitpicking the […]

    • Anime ja nai, unfortunately. At least it explains why she went as crazy as she has.

      Maybe her declaring war on us is why I’ve not being getting responses to my reviews. She’s spamming so many people no one wants to respond to anyone fixing stories in case it’s an Farla troll.

    • She was leaving because an admin finally paid attention to the shitshow. When they didn’t do anything immediately and her attempt to incite her viewers into attacking us resulted in one misguided soul attacking us, she came back. 

    • Wouldn’t be no battle if you just shrugged it off, bro. You insisted on fighting when all you do is annoy everyone and scare off reviewers who genuinely wish to help but don’t want you on their backs. All you do is make things worse.

    • You’re going to feel a lot better when you get back to writing your stories, Blaze.

    • WyldClaw is a bit of a funny character, they’ve been leaving me anonymous and non-anonymous reviews on and off since the OG Gods and Demons was being posted or earlier.

    • That Tapu Lele story . . . I had read it earlier, but noped out when I saw the ‘OMG I have boobs’ lines. It was too bad, because I had been appreciating the more competent than the norm scene setting. But a line like that took me totally out of the story. Why would a legendary pokemon know or care anything about human breasts? It just doesn’t make sense.

      • Ghost replied 1 week ago

        That line actually caused me to rant in a Discord server I frequent because it was legitimately a good story up until that line, then I just lost it and went on a rant about how male authors had to sexualize everything when writing a female character.

        It wasn’t a male author after all :(

        • APen replied 1 week ago

          I’d even written up a review explaining that the line totally turned me off the story, and then — I just didn’t have the energy. To post the review, to get yelled at in the comments, to deal with the author potentially being upset.

          And now from the author’s response to St Elmo’s review, I see that I probably would have been doing them a service by showing that other potential readers were also turned off by their “boob joke”.

          This is the reason I really admire what St Elmo, Reeds, Talarc (and of course Farla) are doing with their reviews. It takes time, energy, and a thick skin to deal out this kind of criticism. And it’s absolutely something authors need to hear. If you don’t know the problem, how can you fix it? But Pokemon’s “if you don’t have anything nice to say” culture means that very few people are prepared to speak up about problems they see in stories. Rather than pointing out the problem, we just move on from the story. So it becomes a vicious circle of authors not getting the feedback they need.

        • Keleri replied 1 week ago

          It wasn’t a male author after all :(

          Oof. To be fair, if you’re a young female nerd, the mainstream media properties you’ve been exposed to have likely been super bad for weird and unfunny Joaks™ about boobs and sexual harrassment. I myself parroted a lot of stuff that was never funny but It Is The Joke That People Want, Right? Also the man-author Woman Character Checks Out Own Ass In Mirror because this is how you write women right

          • I’m actively trying to avoid writing like that in my story. So far, I’ve not found a reason to have a character check out their butt, but that might be due to my writing style :/

          • Another sad explanation is internalized self-hatred. When I was in Eating Disorder Mind as a teen, I definitely talked like that, even though I knew it was awful and degrading, as a kind of externalized self-harm. The shit we do to young women is tragic.

          • Also the man-author Woman Character Checks Out Own Ass In Mirror because this is how you write women right

            My brother was recently describing what the various channels of his discord server were for, and one of them was literally “so they can post pictures of their butts and argue over who has the nicest one”. This was apparently a containment channel that actually needed creating.

      • why

        why do folks wanna fuck pokemon

        just why

        • Fetishes and kinks. Gardevoir’s particularly popular because of how similar it is to human females.
          Not a fan of human x Pokémon myself. I don’t like writing humans kissing, let alone humans with Pokémon.

        • Xenophiliaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

          Not that I’m here for pokemon fandom’s Baby’s First Kink master/slave bullshit, but I get it

          • But what’s frustrating is that they can’t even do xenophilia right, as I complained in the dragonair story. They can’t stop going on about how the freaky monster they want to screw thinks their self-insert’s standard human beauty ideal is so hot followed by zero logistical issues with making out with muzzles. Like, if you’re gonna be writing freaky stuff, put some effort into it, you know?

            I guess it kinda comes back to what I say about those serial-numbers-embossed-on fics — if you’re choosing to write about fantasy elements, you need to actually engage with them.

            • You’d have to do an extreme amount of research to be able to write a accurate xenophilia story. Most can’t be bothered with that and just want to write a quick fuck, so they just go “they make out lol”.

              • And as I say to the people writing pokemon as ordinary high schoolers, you have other options if that’s what you want to do! Other pokemon, even, as awful as the gardevoir stuff is. I just don’t understand why people look at the wealth of options they have and actively choose the one that doesn’t align with what they want to write.

              • Oh, I’ve seen a few stories where I think the only reason a particular fandom is chosen is cause that’s where the author’s friends are.

                Why else would it be written when using nothing unique about the fandom and marketed as an AU.

                I don’t appreciate animals turning to humans wholesale as the basis of the premise. That’s just stupid and a lack of imagination.

                I’m pretty sure similar premises made their way into the Pokemon fandom.

                As for xenophilia, I think most stories forget the concept of size.

                 

                 

              • Theoretically, a high school AU featuring Pokémon could be done but again, a ton of research and background lore would be required for it to work that people just handwave.

              • A highschool AU featuring pokemon focusing on the differences between individual species can be interesting I guess.

              • When I wanted to write a story about two high schoolers, that’s what I did. I didn’t even give them the names of a fandom-popular couple to entice people to read it!

                Which is probably why it’s gotten only 31 hits since I posted it in late October, but hey. I have my principles.

              • @CrazyEd I’m pretty sure if my story involved Ash and Misty/Serena I’d be sitting af 11,000 hits… Instead I’m at 1,700 hits wth a pairing I actually wanted to write.

                 

                @Venompaw Have the Weaviles be tje edgy kids, Machamp as jocks and Metangs as geeks. You’ve got yourself a high school AU where the Metangs are trying to study for the finals but keep getting interrupted by the Weaviles’ antics, causing them to turn to the Machamps to deal with them.

                A nice one-shot subverting the common theme of jocks vs geeks.

                 

    • Keleri replied 1 week ago

      Maybe? It looks like all their stuff hasn’t gotten much notice, anyway, so if that’s the case it isn’t working out.

    • Kinda wish I could’ve seen the original review. Lamia did block for the two most subjective points, but deleting that story and reposting it is hilarious and lowers my opinion of the author significantly. I can see why they’re annoyed though.

       

       

    • Yo, Blaze. So you are indeed confirming you’re KingPyle and the person claiming to be a Brandon Pyle, then? Do you want me to switch pronouns?

    • “Stop lying about me.”

      KingPyle was not mentioned in that post, only Blaze.  You gotta watch out for who’s saying what when you’re sockpuppetting, Blaze.

    • Actually no the Pokemon games are suited for stories as we keep getting stories with each passing game. As several novalizations have proven it an be done.

      Oh hey, I haven’t heard that before! Could you show me these “several novelizations” that made it to completion?

      • oh lordy, game novelizations
        if a game novelization is anything approaching good/finished, it’s because of the skill/doggedness of the author, not because of the barebones the game gave them

    • As someome working on a novelization, I have to admit, I’m working on a lot more original content in it than I thought I would be, even coming up with my own lore for some parts. The games really don’t give us much to work with, even in story driven one’s like Sun and Moon

    • Ooh, feel free to link your completed story!

    • Looks like the spam filter got confused. In its defense, it has been a strange few months for the poor thing.

  • A great surreal SuMo novelization today, and a HGSS adaptation that was good up until it started talking about how funny it was the trainer’s pokemon didn’t want to get beaten into the pavement for his personal […]

    • [Testicles crawled out of the black hole, grabbing hold of anyone that got it their paths.]

      I just spat my coffee out. It’d be worth breaking my own rule of not writing above T to make a story based off of that spelling mistake.

      I am terribly disappointed by Blaze’s response to this one. It seems like she chickened out as soon as the porn started.

      Not surprised. She didn’t seem like the type who would read porn.

    • I am terribly disappointed by Blaze’s response to this one. It seems like she chickened out as soon as the porn started.

      Damn. No “actually, snakes can totally blush – there are lots of scientists that say this.” then.

    • [Testicles crawled out of the black hole, grabbing hold of anyone that got it their paths.]

      This is incredible.

  • Someone actually apologizes after flipping out at me today.

    re: Your review to Reunion
    22 JulyKaelstrider
    A response to your review at https://www.fanfiction.net/r/13009741/

    I have read your biography […]

    • ShadowLeafeon’s one of those FASTEF bandwagoners. Nothing of note otherwise.

    • FASTEF (Farla And ST Elmo’s Fire) are a group of people who dislike Farla and St Elmo’s Fire’s review style and as a result, have opted instead to fight against them.
       
      They can be spotted because they will have the following statement on their profiles:
      FASTEF Crusaders:
      If you have been on this site’s Pokemon section, then you probably came across the names Farla and St. Elmo’s Fire a couple of times in the review sections of stories. They are two of the worst users on this site EVER! They go around the section and leave quote-unquote “constructive criticism” on stories, but most of the information is wrong. Mainly, they say you should not capitalize Pikachu or Charizard or any one of the other 800 Pokemon “because you would not capitalize mouse or lion”. This is not only wrong, but the writers are armed with canon for capitalizing Pokemon names. And the rest of the information they give is 5% actually helpful, 95% an unwanted “The Reason Your Story Sucks” speech. And when ever you try to reason with them through PMs, they will bite your head off as they do not take no for an answer. Oh, and did I mention that on their blogs, they post your PMs WITHOUT PERMISSION? Because that is what else they do. So, if you hate these bastards as much as I do, please copy and paste the oath of the FASTEF Crusaders in your own profile (but change my user name to yours):
      I, (Insert Author’s Name here), shall to the best of my ability, help protect the Pokemon section of Fan Fiction Dot Net from the abusive reviews of Farla and St Elmo’s Fire with my fellow FASTEF Crusaders, so users can write their own stories without worry or fear of being bashed by the evils of these two users, so help me Arceus.
      Personally, I’ve never encountered them, so they at least have the decency to not go out trying to pick a fight with us. So they aren’t really anything to worry about, just don’t review them and you are fine.

      • “I always made one prayer to God, a very short one. Here it is: “O Lord, make our enemies quite ridiculous!” God granted it.”

        –Voltaire

  • A variety of stuff, but most of it is uninspired or incoherent.

    Anime count: 9

    I don’t watch the anime, so I’m not going to be able to review this story on content. Please tag your story as anime fic to avo […]

    • Reset Bloodlines.

      I get the feeling if I actually bothered to look at those I’d understand why that needs that tag.

      And wow, that went downhill fast. Tag your fetishes.

      Why do I get the feeling it went “It was a nice, warm summer day. Latias was watering the flowers and whistling a song. Suddenly, she grew a dick and started fucking the local cheerleaders.” ?

      • Would the Honedge line be Mary Sues or no? I never see them used enough to be classed as one but I get the feeling they would be.

    • I did not actually know that bit about double quotations used inside single quotations inside double quotations. I’ve never actually had to use that before, so it’s never come up, but good to know. I’m going to assume the pattern continues? 
      … Now I want to make the most convoluted sentence ever, just for the sake of it. 

      • I read a fic where the main character had a gimmick of speaking out dialogue tags because she was a part of a hivemind and it was the closest equivalent to free exchange of thoughts and emotions, so her sentences looked something like that: “‘Hello, nice to meet you,’ I said honestly,” I said deceptively.

        At one point she had to rely what other people said to her. Other characters had trouble following her.

  • Their religion is the site rules. You may think I am exaggerating, but I am not. It’s best to just ignore them.

  • Farla hasn’t been reviewing consistently for a long time and skips romance when she does. I skip all anime and PMD fic.

  • Try not posting to the forum until you’re done with a batch.

  • You should do what I do and check if you can send a PM message. That’ll tell you if you’re already blocked, and sometimes you learn interesting things from the profiles.

  • “I don’t consider Pokémon giving each other names, apart from nicknames like ‘Lu’ for Lucario or ‘Goth’ for Gothitelle.

    Let’s just face it. We disagree on many things in the Pokemon universe. If you don’t […]

    • “If you are going to review, say something along the lines of “I can help you critique your work if you want my advice or beta read for you if you want me to?” or something along those lines. It’s as simple as that. There is no need for a critical analysis like the ones you give. Don’t be pressuring like you are.”
      I thought this was addressed with the preamble, though. PMing everyone and waiting for a response is just really inefficient if that’s what the person is talking about. But holy crap, are people getting caught up on the weirdest things! I just told this one person that their story was corrupted, then they thanked me for letting them know and that they’d let me know when it was re-uploaded. I responded, letting them know, even, that if they wanted a review that mine were constructive criticism reviews, not vague praise stuff.
      Even if we DO private message people with a warning, we’d still get blocked and everything. It’s not even about that courtesy, it’s about not wanting to see anything critical at all, apparently. And now there’s this one user named KnightLawn going around posting the vaguest of praises to everyone they possibly can — that’s genuine, I’m sure. Way to invalidate praise by giving it to literally anything there, mate. That’s the exact opposite of helpful. If everyone hears “OMG GREATTT !!!1!!1” then if someone actually read the damn thing and liked it, someone might not even believe them. We are experiencing compliment inflation. That’s a thing, apparently.
      Most frustrating. And I was prevented from posting on a story about Mewtwo because they’d blocked me beforehand. Well, it’s their loss, but it’s really aggravating to spend so much time on a review only to find that they’ve bought into the hivemind conspiracy. When we’re all rich and famous, I want that to be the title of the book that records this madness: “The Hivemind Conspiracy, book one: Misguided Crusade.”

      • Compliment inflation. Note to self, stop complimenting, start bitching and criticising, because right now, being critical is more important than being nice.

      • You should do what I do and check if you can send a PM message. That’ll tell you if you’re already blocked, and sometimes you learn interesting things from the profiles.

        • I normally do that, but I goofed and forgot to this time. Sometimes I’m ninja’d and I get blocked in the time it takes to finish a review, but most of the time I do the PM test.

    • Urgh, and now Dragon’s Blaze is out on her crusade again as Fire4Heaven. She uses the alert from her subscription to my forum thread as a trigger to do that, I’m near-absolutely sure. It makes me want for another damn thread, but then the same freaking thing would happen over there.

      Gah, she aggravates me.

      • I thought she was banned from the forum?

        • I think she posted a while back, which might give her alerts to new posts, even if she can’t actually post anything new. There’s certainly a startling correlation to whenever I make a review there and when she starts spamming again. Sometimes as early as four minutes after I post she begins the crusade again and specifically mentioned me by name once, citing the end of my inactivity. I’m pretty sure she gets the email notification, goes to the forum, follows the link I provide for data reasons, and starts from there, warning new users about the terrible scourge that is St Elmo’s Fire and friends.

           

          It’s honestly made me want to not provide links, but we have to for obvious record reasons. 

          • I never get email notifs from the threads I’m subscribed to, so maybe not. She might just have an alt observing the thread and when you update, she rolls from there. 

            I wish I had as much free time as her. To have enough time to spam everyone saying “Block this person, they are mean” in the day would be wonderful.

            • The speed at which she responds makes me suspicious, but I suppose it’s possible that she really is that obsessed enough to refresh a page in an absurd frequency. 

              • Given that I don’t post public records of my reviews at present and I still get counter-reviews very quickly after posting, I think it’s more likely to be just her obsessively stalking any new stories that have been published. 

              • Ghost replied 3 weeks ago

                That does seem to be the case, since the warnings get posted even when there’s a lull in reviews.

              • The level of obsessiveness at play here is obscene. Does she really have nothing better to do than refresh a page ad infinitum? I could understand being alerted to something, but this is just insane. I’m going to post a review and see if it triggers a Blaze review in the next thirty minutes just as an experiment, but if this really is the case, I’d rather just post one by one so I don’t lose them.

                @Talarc, Just curious, but why not post them publically? There are advantages to doing so for hate deflection and people can be aided by applicable advice if they happen across a review that goes over similar stuff to their story. 

              • Ghost replied 3 weeks ago

                Now I’m wondering if she rigged up a bot to do it. Can bots even work with FFN?

              • Possibly. It took her 36 minutes after I posted the review to counter-review and say that the person blocked me via a review on The Phantom Rebellion, which did not actually happen at the time of her sending that review. 

              • Ghost replied 3 weeks ago

                Then no, it’s just her. A bot would’ve responded much faster than that. Scratch that theory.

              • I don’t know – the Fire4Heaven warning reviews could still be a bot, given how cookie-cutter they are. I doubt that the counter reviews are though. 

                @The Reeds of Enki, I don’t have my own forum thread like you! :P 

                I suppose I could just post in the general NaRe thread whenever I’ve gathered up a batch though…

              • @Talarc, I’m sure Farla would be willing to set you up with one. You’ve been at this for a lot longer than I have, I think, and they post their reviews here for data purposes. It just makes sense for everyone who reviews here to do the same. It’d be convenient to have them all in places that are easily accessible by both the public and by us.

                The PMs thing is an issue, as I’d rather that not be on a FF forum, but just the reviews bit might be good enough, even if it’s also useful to have PMs out there as well. I can prove that the person “B”/Clearly-Not-Blaze was lying when they said the person I had reviewed had blocked me.

                Every bit helps against the hatedom, which can help in more people being more inclined to accept help instead of blocking us or freaking out. Maybe PM her about it? 

              • Holy crap, nope, that person did actually block me now. How the unholy fuck did Istwill’s message appear more convincing that I was the troll instead of her? It’s obvious that she didn’t even read the damn story, she even slipped up and agreed with me once by accident.

                And this is a person who says this on their profile page: ” Feel free to criticize, as that’s the only way I can improve, apart from random ideas popping up. Unfortunately, very few people do, so I generally rely on the latter.”

                Well gee, Daniel (on profile also), maybe people don’t give criticism because you block them after doing so.

              • Ghost replied 3 weeks ago

                Nah. Fire doesn’t post fast enough to be a bot. A bot would post about two minutes after the story went up and would get every story. Fire misses a few stories, so it’s an obsessed person.

                 

                @TheReedsofEniki could be a situation like mine was initially where I blocked Elmo just so that Blaze and her mates would get off my ass about it.

              • I actually considered asking for my own thread around the time that you got your thread, but decided against – I suppose I felt like there wasn’t as much of a need since my reviews are much more similar to Elmo’s and the whole idea of your thread was to compare methods. I don’t mind posting my reviews though, so if you think it would help then I’ll send Farla a PM asking for one! 

                Holy crap, nope, that person did actually block me now. How the unholy fuck did Istwill’s message appear more convincing that I was the troll instead of her

                I agree with Ghost that they could have blocked you to escape the drama. Blaze already admitted to me that she essentially strong-armed another user into blocking me after they posted a review supporting me back in March, so it wouldn’t surprise me. 

                I think that this is part of Blaze’s modus operandi: start by sending PM warnings as either Dragon’s Blaze or lstwill56, followed by Fire4Heaven giving out warning reviews if that doesn’t work. I’ve come across several authors who have me blocked despite not having any warning reviews on their work, so I’m assuming that they were contacted by PM and listened to her. If that doesn’t work, then she counter-reviews any reviews we post, normally as lstwill56, but sometimes as Dragon’s Blaze. I’ve sometimes seen these counter reviews mention having PMed the authors beforehand as well. It’s interesting looking at the patterns, even if it’s frustrating that she’s still at it. Though I must admit that their counter-reviews of your reviews always look particularly unhinged – they really are scaping the barrel if they have to claim that your suggested rewrites are plagiarism! 

                Interestingly, the user who blocked you hasn’t blocked me (at time of writing), so it could have been just a knee-jerk reaction. I did notice that they have another story that was reviewed by Elmo back in December, so I tracked down their response to that review, if you’re interested in reading it. 

              • @ Ghost and Talarc, yeah I think you might be right. I don’t agree with it, but if they think continued harassment of their stories is at stake, I can understand why they’d block someone who is just giving concrit. Dragon’s Blaze annoys the hell out of me. It would be one thing if she just pestered me, but no, she has to go after everyone we review and give them piss-poor advice that could actually seriously hurt someone’s writing, should they take her advice in a fit of wounded ego. 

                @Talarc, I’d say go for it. Farla and Elmo post reviews, I post reviews, it’s pretty much just a thing that’s done now. It’s something to take pride in, too, having a thread where you post them in. A vanity, sure, but I think I/we’re all allotted that much, given that we are spending our free time helping people out. You’ve been at this longer than I have, I’d say you deserve one, but it is ultimately up to Farla. I have no idea why she’d say no, though– having things up in a neat and organized manner can only be helpful and, again, people can go there for applicable advice. I don’t really see how it could be anything other than helpful, honestly. 

              • Plus, more people can see that it’s not just one or two crazy people posting reviews! Maybe people might be influenced to join a positive bandwagon effect, not that I’m advocating for doing something just because others are doing it. But if people see that it’s not just Farla’s forum and one person’s thread posting reviews, it might help. I actually think it would help if St Elmo’s Fire put reviews there as well, as most people are too lazy to look into Dragon Quill, but his and Farla’s name are pretty synonymous to the bulk of the archive by now, so I don’t know if that would make a difference after all. 

              • Ghost replied 3 weeks ago

                So three threads of reviews for people to look over. That would probably help. I’ll keep swinging around the fandom doing what I can. Won’t be an NARE type review but I’ll keep helping out where I can since it might get the snowball rolling a bit.

              • Mm, yeah! If everyone here who did reviews had their own forum thread, it would give the impression of more than just one or two crazies. It might even inspire more reviewers.

              • The problem is this isn’t just about Blaze anymore. She’s contacted enough authors and convinced them of this group’s evil that they’re spreading PM warnings on their own. I first heard about you guys via an author I previously reviewed, who heard about it from another author who spoke to Blaze directly.

                Interestingly enough, I hadn’t heard of you guys AT ALL before then, and I’ve been writing Pokemon fanfiction for over five years. Are there some types of stories you guys don’t review, or did I just get skipped by chance all this time? I’m a little curious.

              • Farla hasn’t been reviewing consistently for a long time and skips romance when she does. I skip all anime and PMD fic.

              • On the bright side, Blaze has started picking a fight with Critics United now, so her friends might ease off us for a bit. :p

              • LOL. Do you really think we’re stupid? Really? Try harder. 

              • Farla owes a random person 4500 shoes?What an odd thing for a court to order someone to give to someone else.

                Six month prohibition from what? Drinking? Eating pizza? If a court don’t specify, how we supposed to know? Come on, dude. If you are gonn try for a frivolous lawsuit at least be realistic.

                Also, isn’t it illegal to lie about something like that…?

              • ‘Dollies’ is what I’m going to call all money from now on.

              • New currency:

              • @Illhousen, that actually made me laugh. Yes, the dollar is collapsing, people. Forget gold, dolls are now the standard currency. Buy now! 

              • On the bright side, Blaze has started picking a fight with Critics United now, so her friends might ease off us for a bit. :p

                And of course, everything goes to shit when I say that. Me and my big mouth.

              • I just looked over CU for the first time. Concerning Blaze, could you elaborate as to where said feud is going down? 

                Concerning CU as a whole… I’m a little disturbed, I’m not gonna lie. There’s a metric fuckton of subtle homophobia in there and it’s frankly a little disturbing. Also, despite what they say, they do actually appear to work with the intent of getting stories deleted. “Delete this story or else it’s not compliant” leaves very little wiggle room for interpretation. 

                People may have legitimate complaints about some things done here amidst a sea of illegitimate ones, but at least we’ve never acted with the intention of removing stories, to my knowledge. St Elmo’s Fire routinely dissuades such actions. It might happen, but never because we encourage it. I’m frankly a bit disturbed right now. 

                I see mentions of the Bible in CU tagged posts as well. Combine that with the not-very-subtle homophobia, I’m going to take a wild guess and say they’re affiliated with a specific religion. Yeesh

              • Their religion is the site rules. You may think I am exaggerating, but I am not. It’s best to just ignore them.

              • It aggravates me that I have to be affiliated with those kinds of Christians in any way, shape, or form. It’s also ridiculously bad form to model a religion’s rules and regulations for what should be a secular site. Aggravated sigh. 

                What can you do. I really was tempted to question them about certain things, but all that would have amounted to would be giving them grief and also maybe painting a target on the Farla group of reviewers. That’s still highly incentivizing,  that page and what it stands for. 

              • You already have one group after ya. Let’s NOT get another one after you.

                I feel bad for that random who got sucked up into the mess. One NaRe style review and he’s suddenly a part of the group.

              • I won’t get into a brouhaha with them, don’t worry, even if they are truly irksome. I need to focus my attention on stuff on this end, with my book and the time I get to review for NOT CU. I’d really rather even more of my time get sucked up into inane arguments. I appreciate the concern, though, @Ghost. 

              • I’d really rather even more of my time not get sucked up into inane arguments*

                I wish you could still edit past a certain point.

              • Yeah well, you are going to. Blaze cancelled her story and named you as one of the trolls who’ve been been harassing her.

              • It would appear that the fallout has already hit a la one Sir Chaos Omega! Likely someone misguided, nothing seriously obstructive, I think. 

          • Try not posting to the forum until you’re done with a batch.

            • FFN mods are active as they wiped a user who was trolling the Axis Powers fandom with spam stories thanks to Critics United reporting them. I’m guessing they won’t see Blaze or Elmo as a problem unless they actively spam the Pokémon fandom with stories that break the rules. 

              So I guess all we can do is keep chugging along.

            • @St Elmo’s Fire, that is a good idea. I think I’ll do that instead of posting one by one.

    • Wolf Strife appears to have deleted his Pokemon story. The only one he has left is from 2014, with no reviews from Saint.

      • Ghost replied 3 weeks ago

        It’ll get reuploaded. He’s probably trying to remove Elmo’s review.

  • A neat take on the Giratina battle in Platinum, an OT fic that actually looks decent, and a story about pokemon rescuing abused trainer pokemon where the pokemon all act like humans.

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    • “So they’re a giant sue, then.”

      Stu. Like Gary Stu/Marty Stu. Sue’s the female version, I think, unless you said Sue because she’s more well known.

      • FWIW we often used “Sues” as the collective noun back during the LJ days regardless of gender. Makes me wonder what we should call the neutral gender wish fulfilment character now…

        • A quick trip to the Baby Mines has reported that apparently Marley (JAAAAAAAAAAACOOOOOOB MAAAAAAARLEYYYYYYYYY) is an up-and-coming unisex baby name, so I’m gonna suggest Marley Xu (shu) for our hypothetical agender pokemon battle star who’s good at everything and gets a shiny starter.

    • I don’t doubt that too many men are weirdly uncomfortable with anything that deviates from the narrative of muscles ‘n’ beer ‘n’ MAN stuff, but as times go on, termonology can too. It could have been invented or be implimented simply to be more accurate to one’s gender/not misgender or what have you. There’s nothing wrong with having a term that’s more accurate nor is there anything wrong with advocating for a more accurate term.

      • I was just saying it because I know there’s different terms based on gender of the character and because I’m sure Elmo has better things to do than argue with people who go “well you aren’t using the right gender specific names for the Marty Stu/Mary Sue, so why should I use anything other than he? Fix ya gramma first, you hippocrite!”
         
        Messups are intentional.
         

    • I think a lot of people see too much overlap to warrent such a distintion. Stus aren’t unique in magic glowing swords.

    • Huh, I always saw it being put forth that Mary Sue was the sexist term because it put a female gender on all the terrible wish fulfilment characters regardless of their actual gender, and implied that only female characters were like that or that only female authors wrote them.

  • Just TV Tropes, because they have functional mods.

  • Not anymore! Twenty4Seven got banned for being a sockpuppet.

  • “So you finally came. St Elmo’s fire, I shouldn’t have to write to fit your needs alone. In that case you might as well hold someone’s hand as they write.

    Imagine it like this, your favorite author is writing […]

    • Yeah, that drama with Charmeleon was crazy. From a complete 180 degrees flip in stance on the matter to reverting back to being an asshole to outright admitting that the reason they did not want to see our side of things was because they were a coward who didn’t want people to possibly dunk on their story, I did not know quite what to expect.

      … And while I totally get that stories are important to you, that level of protectiveness isn’t something I’d typically expect about a story with only 1k words and two chapters, one of which is just an announcement.

      • Or he could’ve just blocked them and not had them dunk on his story? He was just an immature kid looking to see how far he could push you, I’m afraid. 
        No u’s still a meme? That dude’s fallen behind the times (Coming from someone who still says yeet, I know but ah well).
        EDIT: Turns out no u’s still a thing. I must still be out of touch with modern memes.

    • “This would be better suited to original fiction with your own original gods or wizard characters.”
      I see this as an insult. Thanks.

      People pick the weirdest things to find insulting sometimes…

      • They probably interpreted it as “This story isn’t good enough for Pokémon so don’t drag down the franchise with your story.” Which is a stupid way to interpret it.

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