The Other Pokeauthors, Part 101

Responses are mostly appreciative.

What’s up
9 AprOverlordOfTheAbyss
Thanks for the review on my story. I changed it quite a bit from what it was originally. It was pretty horrible before. I’ll take what you said to note so I can make the story better. One question. What do you think of the plotline? Minus the mistakes, is it interesting?
Until then peace out from Abyss.
42m agoI currently have two other stories that I’m fixing. Maybe after I’ve fixed them I can get your input on them.
secs agoI meant it when I said that I couldn’t continue reading. It’s too hard to understand what’s going on when conversations are lumped into walls of text like that. From the opening, it seems… decent, I suppose? You’ve introduced a bit more personality and backstory than most original trainer fics do.
re: Your review to The Power of A Shining Diamond
9 AprGreninjaten99
A response to your review at https://www.fanfiction.net/r/12885041/

St Elmo’s Fire, Thank you for telling me this. I just started making this story and just wrote down what came to mind. I am not that experienced in this type of thing so it really helps out for telling me my mistakes. The next chapter I will try to do better, but it possibly will have some errors.

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9 AprSevvyOmahgawsh
A response to your review at https://www.fanfiction.net/r/12884176/

Yes, I do get requests for lemons from certain people (Im not saying who for privacy reasons), so much that is pretty frikkin darn annoying. not to mention I just got back from a road trip stuck in a car with my annoying step brother who acts like a little shit because of how spoiled the little brat is, so yes im sorry if this note seems critical, but that is why. just so you know

secs agoI see. That must be very annoying, yes.
latest review
35m agoSevvyOmahgawsh
thank you for the info and whatnot, but just so you know im actually kind of bad (as in really bad) at either writing stories or just with writing in general. I will be honest, I suck at language arts.
secs agoAw, don’t be down on yourself! Everyone starts somewhere! You’ll improve if you keep at it.
re: Your review to Sam\’s Alolan Pokémon Journey
10 AprSolagleo2384
A response to your review at https://www.fanfiction.net/r/12758652/

IDC ABOUT UUUUUU!!!

re: Your review to Hero in the Making
10 AprSpartaLazor
A response to your review at https://www.fanfiction.net/r/12895198/

I actually appreciate such a detailed review. It’s a lot more constructive than someone just saying “great story” or something.

Most of the issues probably stem from the fact that I didn’t edit the full chapter after writing it. I knew there were some weak parts and areas that needed some reworking, but I just kinda jumped the gun I guess.

As for the Pokemon vs pokemon thing, I’ve seen it go back and forth but honestly I did it the way that feels right to me, and I’m just gonna stick with that. Either way, I don’t think it has a big impact on the overall story.

I’m not really sure which way I’m gonna take the crush on May. It might develop, it might not. There might be some new character that gets introduced for something like that, it’ll just unfold in time, and I’ll add the Romance listing when I get to that point.

And yeah, It might be a bit of a challenge to keep things new and fresh. I’m gonna aim to build on the in-game plot, as well as adding in some new plots and story elements of my own.

Again, thanks for that nice review! Really helps me get a feel of where I currently am in my writing.

re: Your review to A Burning Chill
11 AprTanaki Wolf
A response to your review at https://www.fanfiction.net/r/12896054/

Thanks much! Your detailed feedback is appreciated, I didn’t expect such a review.

I could have done more to expand on the strange case of fire-types living in the mountains – I was trying to go for a sort of “it’s too hot for them on the beaches”, but that didn’t really play out in what I finally did with the story. I already felt the story was pretty heavy on scene setting and I didn’t want the first half to just be a history lesson.

I fall back to “the male” and “the female” since I have trouble coming up with ways to refer to each of the characters without being too repetitive. I need to expand my vocabulary in that regard – it is a little weird to use that with humans. Are there any terms that you like to use to make the distinction with characters?

secs agoYou actually don’t need to worry about epithets getting repetitive — simple references shouldn’t draw attention to themselves anyway, so varying them to look interesting is actually just distracting. It’s a similar thing with how I disagree with people that say not to use “said”. “The woman” and “the man” would be fine here. You could also give them slightly different job descriptions, like one being an assistant or specialist.
re: Your review to Artificially Intelligent
13 AprThatGuyHeroBrine
A response to your review at https://www.fanfiction.net/r/12891473/

Alright, time to address some stuff. 1. None of the characters ever have a ‘thought’. None. If you are referring to SAMI, then you’re mistaken. SAMI is literally a VOICE inside Lucio’s head. Coming through a speaker. If you read until the end, you’ll notice that Daniel can hear SAMI’s voice. Also, think about it. How would a snake take notes? Perhaps by using its tail to hold a pen? Also, I apologize for my inability to tell the difference between its and it’s. Thank you for taking the time to criticize my work.

secs agoThe dialogue paragraph is a standard model covering every possible point of confusion in case it needs to be referenced in the future. I wasn’t referencing anything specific with the bit about thoughts.

[Also, think about it. How would a snake take notes? Perhaps by using its tail to hold a pen?]

A snake’s tail does not have the requisite fine motor control, and it would have to contort itself awkwardly to get the tail near its face. So, no, that’s not an obvious assumption to make. If you’re picturing something unusual, it’s a good idea to describe it fully.

6h agoAnd one more thing. I write on a whim, so I just write whatever comes into my head and seems like a good idea at the time. It’s no big deal, I’m probably never going to make a chapter 2 anyway, because I don’t really have any ideas.

P.S.: the reason I capitalized VOICE in the first post is because you can’t italicize words in PMs.

P.P.S.: [A snake’s tail does not have the requisite fine motor control] I know I never mention it, but this takes place about 3,000 years in the future, in a Fallout-esque world. Feel free to interpret that as you wish.

re: Your review to Pokémon:Dimensions
13 AprMystery Man R
A response to your review at https://www.fanfiction.net/r/11989407/

thanks for advice! I am a noob at writing I’m not gonna lie but it’s nice to know someone wants to give good advice besides just bad review.

re: Your review to Atlas Academy Adventures
14 Apronetim3
A response to your review at https://www.fanfiction.net/r/12902046/

Thanks for the feedback! It’s my first time writing a story so I appreciate it. I made some changes, hopefully it looks better and makes it easier to read.

secs agoThat is much better, thank you. There are still several things that make it confusing to read, though. In particular, you shouldn’t do *action effects* in prose — again, that’s the sort of thing only seen in scripts. Describe what’s happening instead.

This thread is also helpful for a lot of grammar stuff: https://www.fanfiction.net/topic/11834/21887406/1/Writing-Guide-Part-One-Grammar

re: Your review to Dark Types
17 AprRonaldoismyWaifu
A response to your review at https://www.fanfiction.net/r/12892230/

Thank you for the constructive criticism. I will consider changing the title if I can come up with a better one.

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  1. Cerrie says:

    The one good thing about this. I can show them what you actually do. Its rather helpful really.




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    1. Yes. That has always been the entire point of this. You’re welcome.




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      1. Cerrie says:

        Yes. That has always been the entire point of this. You’re welcome.

        You really are full of yourself you know that. I wasn’t praising you for doing a “Good job” I was [raising you for proving my point. You’ll be surprised how pissed off people get when they find this out.

         

        Seriously you know I hate you so why do you delude yourself to think differently.




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        1. Everyone already knows we do this. Everyone has always known we do this. The link is on both of our profiles. You are not exposing any kind of secret.

          But hey, you wanna be a hero? Go give people actual reviews that show you actually read the story. Give them the attention I have cruelly denied them by giving them attention.




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          1. Cerrie says:

            Everyone already knows we do this. Everyone has always known we do this. The link is on both of our profiles. You are not exposing any kind of secret.

            Another fallacy of yours. Not everyone visists your profile. In fact they more commonly  just reply without knowing this is a thing.

            its also kinda agaist the sites rules to do this as well.

            But hey, you wanna be a hero?

            I’m marely telling them the truth. 

            Go give people actual reviews that show you actually read the story.

            Says the person who doesn’t even do that himself.

            Give them the attention I have cruelly denied them by giving them attention.

            As is the case wiith everyone you review. Your actions have screwed them over and you think I’m being cruel.




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            1. Why are you still here, Blaze? There’s reviewing to be done! Chop-chop!




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            2. Cerrie says:

              We both you won’t stop regardless. Your so full of yourself you’re do ir regardless.

               

              Hell you didn’t even bother to look at the link.




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            3. I mean says:
              Out of curiosity, St. Elmo’s Fire, how many reviews would it take/what would the Pokemon ff.net scene look like before you’re liberated from the Farla compound? Would it be a flat X number of reviews, or a consistent number of reviews every day, at least one review on every new story in the archive, etc.? (alternatively, you can direct me to a link/explanation/manifesto if you’ve already explained it)

              As for reviewing itself…while I don’t envy the specific and important tack that St. Elmo’s Fire has taken, I absolutely advocate for leaving lots of reviews because…well, with the way I do it, it’s really fun! Don’t do it just to stop the Farla Illuminati cloning conspiracy (even though I actually do believe that a satisfying, consistent number of reviews would succeed in this endeavor). There’s nothing like the feeling of making someone’s day with a review that shows sign of engagement. You don’t even have to mention grammar – I rarely do, because I’m not one to talk – but just like…leaving a paragraph about how the story made you feel. (or be a jackass like me and leave reviews of 1k to 7k+ words, you’re the boss) Leaving critical reviews is an art and a science, but simply responding to a story is stupidly easy and effortless once you get the ball rolling.

              I guess for most authors I’ve interacted with, having kudos, faves, and follows are nice…but it’s really the reviews that make a story worth publishing, to them. I don’t think they had their weeks do a 180 flip into joy because they got a fave/follow, but they have professed such in response to a review. It’s fun, it’s relaxing, it makes you new friends…just kick back and have a ball `~`




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            4. Act says:

              liberated from the Farla compound? 

              But it has chickens!




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            5. Farla says:

              The original idea was that during January, when I review everybody, people who said they were fine with the concept of criticism but felt we were saying it too mean could take over instead. They had to cover similar ground but could say it however they liked, and if they agreed to do this I wouldn’t review and let them take a crack at it instead. 

              So it’s not about how many reviews a person gives but about new stories getting them. I particularly don’t want picking and choosing because one of the things that comes up again and again is, “Well, you shouldn’t say anything if they’re terrible, just leave those people to rot in silence.” And I really, really do not agree with that.

              The only one who ever, in the years we’ve been offering, actually took us up on it was The Reeds of Enki, but as you can see, while they did a pretty awesome job at writing reviews it was slow going. I think it would be more doable for a group of people working together to try, but as Enki’s the only one to ever do it at all, we’ve never had enough interest at the same time to see if that would work.

              Now, Blaze obviously disagrees with us on…everything? And it seems it’s way more about content than tone, which is an issue, but then again, if Enki’s reviews are okay besides the connection to us, then doing the same thing as Enki while hating us would be fine. We also don’t normally review nonstop, and getting any reviews out there is more important to us. So, provided reviews about as detailed as the current reviews of reviews (whatever the actual content), I think it’d be fine to hand things over for day and see how it goes. Reviews like Enki’s would get the same one-week offer as Enki got.




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            6. Cerrie says:

              So it’s not about how many reviews a person gives but about new stories getting them. I particularly don’t want picking and choosing because one of the things that comes up again and again is, “Well, you shouldn’t say anything if they’re terrible, just leave those people to rot in silence.” And I really, really do not agree with that.

               

              You are however ok with constantly review every story posting the reviews on a blog and leting your friends take the blame for the rest of the year. Funny hhow your sstandards work.

               

              Let’s be honest Farla it stopped beiing about reviews years ago you only use it to justfify the whole fact you like it.




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            7. I mean says:
              I see! I’ve been trying to wrap my head around what’s going on here/in the reviews section, and this does a lot to explain it. Thank you for taking the time to respond. (I’m loving Another Verse, btw, though I might have accidentally shattered its review formatting qq) I won’t make any promises but depending on what happens in the next week or two, I might join the reviewing party/clone wars and see what goes down.



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            8. From my understanding of it, Farla manages a sort of “HQ” of sorts, possibly with the help of others like Act or Illhousen — I’m new here, I don’t really know all about who does what, exactly. Her hosting Dragon Quill and having a forum literally entitled “Complain About Farla” makes her more of a target than any of us, besides. The one month that she does review, I believe, is a lot more intensive than what St Elmo’s Fire and what I do. I’m about to do another run of reviews, but as someone has mentioned before, we all have busy lives. We don’t spend our lives grafted to a computer screen with a browser window to do with FF up all the time. I can’t review all the time and I imagine Farla can’t either. But we still take the time to do so!

              To talk of aspects of reviewing that aren’t purely altruist, you can see common mistakes by keeping an eye out for them and keep them in mind so that you don’t make those mistakes in your own writing. You can do what I do and rewrite passages in a way that not only helps the person being reviewed by giving them an example of what it is that I mean when I give constructive criticism but it also gives you an opportunity to test new writing styles, consistent with what the story being reviewed is in, for example.

              Reviewing is a great way to become more confident in your own ability while also helping others out. I don’t see why they should be hated for spending their time helping writers improve. Does it mean that they loved the story? Doesn’t have to. Does it mean they read the entire story? Doesn’t have to. Does it mean that they’re now a fan 4ever of their story? It does not have to. We’re trying to help the sources of FF stories, the authors, not necessarily add to one more vague and random note of appreciation, a commodity that you’ll find is quite rarer than being someone’s thousandth cheerleader. 

              Off topic, but before you make the accusation again, I really am not St Elmo’s Fire. We review in totally different styles and whatever work I do as Enki is completely and totally separate from what he does. Elmo posted *for* me a ways back because the process of getting stuff on here sounds tedious and at the time I had expressed not wanting to go through it. 




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            9. Farla says:

               (I’m loving Another Verse, btw, though I might have accidentally shattered its review formatting qq)

              Thanks! And no, that…that was them too. Blaze claimed signed reviews could be deleted, I asked if someone could do so on a story of mine, 45 left the page-breaker that’s still up because it turns out you still can’t.

              But regardless, I hope you do have time to review! I absolutely loved getting your reviews. It makes me wish I had another chapter ready to post!




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            10. Ah! In my haste to be irritated at Blaze, I missed your comment in its entirety, @ I Mean. It would be awesome to have another reviewer! I’m the new guy, so I personally would appreciate a fellow new-person on the squad. I do hope everything goes well for you next week so that you can give this a trial run or something. 




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            11. Cerrie says:

              Great another Elmo and Farla reviewer just what we all need (that’s sarcasm Elmo)




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            12. Cerrie says:

              They’ll just be added to the list once its exposed they are working with Farla.




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            13. I mean says:
              @Reeds of Enki – I think I will give this a shot! I hate to leave you hanging, but this last push to get my degree has to come first. And thank you for that advice you posted further upthread, about rewriting passages. Having seen some of your examples, it provides a new way of thinking about critique and articulating thoughts through demonstration. It’ll definitely come in handy!



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            14. illhousen says:

              From my understanding of it, Farla manages a sort of “HQ” of sorts, possibly with the help of others like Act or Illhousen

              Act manages technical side of the site. I write reviews and readthroughs of various media here, same as others, though I’m not nearly as active.




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            15. I mean says:
              @Farla

              [Thanks! And no, that…that was them too. Blaze claimed signed reviews could be deleted, I asked if someone could do so on a story of mine, 45 left the page-breaker that’s still up because it turns out you still can’t.]

              I…I should not be laughing as hard as I am but here we are (but at least the picture is becoming clearer with every new twist)

              [But regardless, I hope you do have time to review! I absolutely loved getting your reviews. It makes me wish I had another chapter ready to post!]

              Awwwww I’m so happy to hear that! All this friendliness has basically committed me to the cause/chicken compound. And don’t rush the chapter if you start feeling pressure (and ffs don’t feel any pressure to respond to my essays, just in case you do!!) – I’m looking forward to it whenever it comes!




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            16. @ I mean, I’m happy I could give a good example for future reviewers! I hope they serve you well in your own cycles of reviewing. And don’t worry about the timing of it; your degree comes first. I’ve had to put a few big things on my end first as well.

              @ Illhousen, thanks for the heads-up! 

               

              @ Both of you: What gender would you like for me to refer to you as? If we’re going to be working together or at the very least have continued contact, it only makes sense to get all that hashed out sooner than later. I believe Act is female, but I could be mistaken. My apologies if I do mix it up at some point. 




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            17. I mean says:
              Well…in an optimistic sense, St. Elmo’s Fire will be reviewing less?



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            18. Act says:

              From my understanding of it, Farla manages a sort of “HQ” of sorts, possibly with the help of others like Act or Illhousen

              The long version is that Farla and I (along with a few other regulars, like Keleri) have been in the pokemon fandom for a very, very long time. Way back when, all the off-ff.net drama was handled on Livejournal, so we all had livejournals, but when Farla started posting book reviews they kind of took over her personal LJ so she moved them to a seperate blog, and then it made sense to just host all reviews here, and then at one point I asked to post mine here too, so I started posting. We were originally on Blogspot, but a couple of years ago I moved us to WordPress because the Blogspot UX was so bad.

              Illhousen and most of our other regulars moved in during my long-form LP of Fate/ Stay Night. I think. So we have a pretty varied mix.

              And I am indeed a she. :)




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            19. illhousen says:

              What gender would you like for me to refer to you as?

              Male.

              Illhousen and most of our other regulars moved in during my long-form LP of Fate/ Stay Night. I think.

              I was the one to suggest doing FSN read, actually. I don’t remember when exactly I found this blog and started commenting, though I remember the context: I was linked here from Ana Mardoll’s blog when someone over there recced Farla’s Hunger Games reviews.




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            20. @ Act and Illhousen: Thanks for the bit of background! I understand the very basics of how this began from the forum on fanfiction, but it’s hard to get a grasp of who all does what and sometimes I feel out of the loop. I do have to ask: under Dragon Quill, it says “writing with scales” Was that a pun for judgment? As in critique? 




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            21. Act says:

              That’s right, I forgot, I started Fate after a bunch of you were already here. Well, who knows where y’all came from, then.

              As for the tagline, that’s Farla’s invention, but I will always remember fondly the brief time where the tagline was, “The last hope for the universe if we lose the dimensional shifter.”




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            22. illhousen says:

              Well, who knows where y’all came from, then.

              Well, I mean, we’re all Farla here (especially Blaze and Co), so our true origin isn’t in question, it’s just a matter of her getting our backstories straight.




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            23. Farla says:

              “writing with scales” Was that a pun for judgment? As in critique? 

              It is 90% because the template I had asked for a subtitle. A dragon quill would be a scale instead of a feather, and “with scales” in the sense of visualizing something slithery and armored, which, I think, we can all agree is a thing that it is good for everything to have, including metaphorical things like writing. It’s only sort of a pun in that I like how it lends itself well to different interpretations of what scales and what writing.




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            24. @ Illhousen: Illuminati confirmed? Turns out fanfiction was the source of it all… I’m going to laugh if The Divine Comedy ends up having some sort tie to a random conspiracy, because all that is is basically self-insert Bible fanfiction. (A fact that amuses me to no end, especially when people get dismissive of fanfiction, but love “the classics.”)

              @ Farla: I’m a little disappointed that it wasn’t a pun to do with a set of scales representing judgment, like you would see in courts, but it still fits if I believe hard enough…  




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            25. illhousen says:

              A fact that amuses me to no end, especially when people get dismissive of fanfiction, but love “the classics.”

              Guildenstern and Rosencrantz Are Dead is a good example along the same lines. The play is very, very derivative of Hamlet. As in, there is a couple of times where the stage directions just say, “Now play scene such and such from Hamlet.” And if you aren’t familiar with Hamlet and don’t know who Guildenstern and Rosencrantz are before watching it, the point of the play is likely to go straight over your head.

              Basically, it’s an alternate POV fanfic.

              For all of that, it’s a great play that takes transformative approach to the source material and uses it as a vehicle to talk about the nature of perfomance itself as well as touch on more eternal questions.




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            26. It’s always interesting to find more examples of how fanfiction has influenced society. I happened upon this on my feed and found that I quite related to it in many aspects (Note that this is written primarily from a female perspective, but as the author of the article says, this is applicable to all genders):

              https://www.tor.com/2018/04/09/the-bodies-of-the-girls-who-made-me-fanfic-and-the-modern-world/

              I wasn’t aware that there might be a large disparity in female to male fanfic writers, but to me, that’s inconsequential. A fundamental part of writing fanfics is being able to try anything out, no matter how crazy it is, — no matter who you are or where you come from, while also being a “school” of sorts, which is where we come in. 

              It’s our duty to be the “professors” of sorts, the people who keep reviews being reviews and not hazy notes of appreciation or flames. I think of this article a good bit when thinking about reviewing fanfiction.

               




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          2. No one special says:
            [Everyone has always known we do this.]

            This is a lie. The links to this blog weren’t posted until after you were called out by someone for doing it.

            Seriously, what’s the point in improving the fics of a fandom you guys clearly don’t enjoy being into, and considering you’re not gonna read over 99% of those stories? I’m not buying that you guys are trying to help anyone, not when you’re so apathetic about it.

            P.S: I grant that being nice on criticism might not be practical or fast enough for some, but sometimes, the fastest way isn’t necessairly the best.




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            1. Farla says:

              You can see the last time a profile was updated, and mine hasn’t been for a while. Also, you can find me saying it over and over and over and over on my forum with the timestamps there, and dig back through this blog and you’ll find people from years back referencing the fact I say so on my profile.

              Are we done with the conspiracy theories now?




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      2. Cerrie says:

        And you just got blocked by someone for your review. Turns out reviewing people I warn just proves my point.

        0 ReplyReport commentSt. Elmo’s Fire says: April 27, 2018 at 9:06 am Okay Blaze, from now on spam on unrelated posts will get deleted. If you really care about this, figure out how blogs work and stick to relevant posts.Edit: Here, since you seem incapable of understanding where posts go when they’re not at the top of the front page, I’ll even provide a direct link: http://www.dragon-quill.net/the-other-pokeauthors-part-101/#comments 0 ReplyReport commentCerrie says: April 27, 2018 at 10:28 am Oh I don’t care. You should know that by now.

        0 ReplyReport commentCerrie says: April 27, 2018 at 11:42 am Okay Blaze, from now on spam on unrelated posts will get deleted. If you really care about this, figure out how blogs work and stick to relevant posts.Your a tyrant. Like I said.

        0 ReplyReport commentCerrie says: April 27, 2018 at 11:43 am Post you link somewhere else Elmo’s.

        0 ReplyReport commentsoph says: April 27, 2018 at 9:32 am Dude, seriously. This crusade gets you nowhere. Chill out. Block them and write your pics in peace,if that’s your intention, but it’s been shown now that it was never about writing fics and the like.

        0 ReplyReport commentCerrie says: April 27, 2018 at 11:41 am Dude, seriously. This crusade gets you nowhere.False, the pms to St have died down. People are blocking him and the others.Block them and write your pics in peaceI already blocked them and yet they refused to leave me alone,but it’s been shown now that it was never about writing fics and the like.Again False. Seriously what’s with yoou people and thinking simeone can’t just fight for others?

        0 ReplyReport commentCerrie says: April 27, 2018 at 11:42 am Also St I will keep posting my reply weather you like it or not

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        go to hell Elmo




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        1. Oh, you managed to find the right post! Congratulations, Blaze! We’re all very proud of you.

          And you just got blocked by someone for your review.

          I’m not sure why you think this is notable. People have blocked me before and they will continue to block me long after this is over.




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          1. @ Farla, I noticed that!! I saw that a while back and was taken aback by it even before all this craziness went down. Now that you mention it though, that makes her even MORE of a hypocritical nuisance, which is actually impressive. I didn’t actually think that she could sink much lower than creating what I’m sure aren’t her brand new accounts made to support a post she just made.




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            1. Cerrie says:

              What Account? Seriously what’s with you dumbasses and bcalling everyone me?




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          2. Cerrie says:

            Oh you mean the guildelines I wrote on my Profile? Yeah I mean its not like that makes me hypocrite.  Yeah sense you just enjoy making everyone seem bad. That’s me advice for fanfic writing and never once did I say they could follow it. Unlike you all who basically demand it via ever single story.

            @The Reeds of Enki I think you have no idea what hypocritic even means.

            !) not in you face about it

            2) those are only person Beliefs 

            3) those are old. Seriouly I have not removed o updated anything major. All I am and was is public for people to see. God your just asshole aren’t who wants to feel smug?




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            1. Act says:

              So… you’re admitting you’re Blaze now, eh?




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            2. Cerrie says:

              … What? Are you an idiot? I Already did that four posts ago… You know what I’m not surprised. Your all so confused you can’t even tell people apart




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            3. Act says:

              You seem to think I’m actually invested in your actions. How odd.




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            4. Cerrie says:

              Well let’s see in doing so I ended up spreading the number of people who ban you all because their isn’t really anything I need to do. You just terrible.




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            5. Act says:

              Ban me? What? Even you don’t know what you’re talking about anymore.




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            6. Cerrie says:

              People banning you? How is that hard for you to understand?




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              I genuinely don’t have any idea what you’re talking about. What is it you think I’m banned from?




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  2. Cerrie says:

    Titling chapters in the story itself looks kinda weird; the dropdown menu should suffice.

    Yeah Elmo as i’m breaking your reviews apart I can’t help but be annoyed by how dumb this is. One mobile devices and even the app at times doesn’t even title the chspters. The dropdown menu barely is seen by most and so this is a curtesy to them.




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      Yeah, that just seemed like a nit-pick to me. People have their own ways of doing stuff. If one of their quirks is that they put chapter titles at the top of the chapter, so what? I doubt it hurts anyone.



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          Like, when a reviewer says to do something, you can just. Not do it.




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            Only if you succeed on a will save. 




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            1. “Only if you succeed on a will save.” 

              This just became my favorite post. XD




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            But Keleri, you don’t understand! Farla has demonic powers!




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        2. I think that one of the big disconnects (of many) regarding critics of our reviews is that they expect for reviewers to be completely, objectively right/correct/knowledgable/you get the point. A review can have some very good points of concrit, but they might disregard it entirely if something opinion-based comes up and they don’t understand that you’re saying I don’t like the way this looks, not this looks objectively bad and you should feel bad.




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          1. Well, I intended for the preamble to clarify that. Unfortunately, effectiveness is hard to judge with the trolls muddying the waters. Check out the responses in the coming weeks and tell me if you think I should tweak it some more.




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            1. Troll-interference does put an annoying wrench in analyzing things properly, but I still think that the preamble can be edited to be more effective. I had planned on starting another round of reviews by today, but some things came up. I did edit it to address some concerns regarding that potential disconnect though. This is what I’ll be using in my next round:

              “Hey! I’m doing a round of reviews around the site, hoping to help give people constructive criticism instead of just vague appreciation or flames. If anything comes off as harsh, I promise that I’m not intending to be. I’m just trying to help us all get better by giving advice and maybe I’ll learn something in the process. Bear in mind that some of what I say might be purely subjective, and feel free to take it or leave it. If you do disagree with some of my interpretations (or misinterpretations) don’t be afraid to let me know why!”

              Outright stating that I do not have an omniscient understanding of what “the best” way of something’s being done is might diffuse a few knee-jerk reactions. The majority of the people expect a positive review, so anything that deviates from that is bound to incite some level of defensiveness. A more detailed disclaimer might diffuse some of that defensiveness so that they can improve instead of thinking that the reviewer is a know-it-all and ignoring potentially very useful advice. 

              Thoughts?




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            2. Act says:

              I know you’re coming from a place of being super concerned with being nice, which I respect and all, but there’s a point at which you just have to put it on someone else that they’re assuming some weird supervillain motivation of you. You can’t account for every projection a person could possibly make. And I also think there’s no small degree to which it’s healthy for everyone to just let people have their reactions, since the hugely vast majority are in fact just normal kid reactions to encountering criticism for the first time.

               Bear in mind that some of what I say might be purely subjective, and feel free to take it or leave it.

              I also think this is especially unhelpful when the biggest complaints we get are about the objective things. And not even like, “This is bad story construction,” objective, but like, “This is how commas work,” objective.




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            3. Yes; Farla has said in the past that she’s cautious about being too nice and/or equivocal, because that can make people think that what the reviewer is saying doesn’t matter. People can easily flip to the other side, thinking that everything the reviewer says is just subjective so they don’t have to care. Like, if you think the current capitalization debates were bad, there used to be people swearing up and down that she was wrong about dialogue too.

              Starting everything you say with a massive disclaimer addressing every possible point can backfire, too, because it makes you look guilty. People may not actually assume all of this stuff, but if you deny it they may think, well gee, why are they being so defensive? Maybe they’re lying? No smoke without fire, right? Sometimes you just gotta charge into the breach and hope for the best. This is why I say I don’t aim to convince absolutely everyone — some people just aren’t going to be convinced no matter what you say, and it’s a better use of time to try to reach more people than to split hairs to their satisfaction.




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              Also hm, I think if you want a disclaimer about taking advice, maybe getting to the heart of it with something like, “This is my advice on what I think you could do. You can take it or leave it, I’m not going to hound you about it.” The real issue isn’t subjective/objective, it’s the idea that either reviewing is invalid or the author has no choice but to obey every letter you type.




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            5. Cerrie says:

              What effectiveness other users have come up front and whole users still block you. It actually making things worse for you. Furthermore your not constant.

               

              I’m not even the only user who stiops this.

               

              I keep inding it ironic you consider everyone who disagrees with you as a troll.




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            6. Cerrie says:

              I call tell you right now Reeds that your reviews are seen as nitpicky as well. Its doesn’t matter at the start your review is nitpicky




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            7. Blaze, could you provide us your definition of “troll” real quick?




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            8. Cerrie says:

              “Trolling” comes in several favors Elmo’s. The internet doesn’t have one single type.




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            9. I didn’t ask for the internet’s definition, Blaze. What is your definition of “troll”?




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          2. Farla says:

            I think that one of the big disconnects (of many) regarding critics of our reviews is that they expect for reviewers to be completely, objectively right/correct/knowledgable/you get the point. 

            Yeah, but that’s another thing that they need to let go of.

            Even if we, or someone else, took up the mantle of Perfect Flawlessly Objective Reviews (and I’m not sure it could even be done), reinforcing this idea means they won’t be able to understand or take anything useful from just about any other review. Also, I think generally the very idea of something needing to be the Perfect Flawless Anything is one of the biggest problems authors have, because they’re stuck in an all-or-nothing mindset where either their fic is without error or it’s complete irredeemable garbage. People are always shouting at me that nothing is perfect, why am I demanding they be perfect, my work isn’t perfect so what a hypocrite I am to say there’s anything wrong with theirs, perfect perfect perfect perfect…




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            1. Fair points. I’m still going to try it out in what I’m sure is naive optimism, hoping that they can see that I do know what I’m talking about. I don’t think trolls go around making detailed passages rewriting sections in an explanatory matter, showing what I meant from my reviews. I put a lot of effort into those rewrites and I’m hoping that the effort there proves that I’m not some random troll hoping to waste someone’s time. 

              In other news concerning odd quirks of authors, I have recently come into being someone’s only favorited author despite having 78 (as of this post) favorited stories. I, notably, have a grand total of zero stories out as The Reeds of Enki. I went to PM this person out of sheer curiosity, only to find that that same person had blocked me from being able to PM them. I’m assuming that it was to keep a watch out so that should I ever post anything, I, too, could get the “You aren’t perfect either!” treatment, but wouldn’t following an author be a more effective method for that? 




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            2. I suppose I will edit out the phrase about subjectivity though. Act is right, people could see that and apply that to everything that I say, not just my opinions. 




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            3. Farla says:

              I have absolutely no idea what’s up with the follow/favorite/etc business. People follow stuff that’s complete constantly. And not like recent ambiguous stories, extremely old extremely one-shot things (or multi-chapters with an obvious END chapter). So given people seem to use follows as favorites, maybe someone else is using favorites as follows.

              Maybe it’s meant to keep an eye on you in case you change your name? Or it’s just a misclick. Or something I can’t even fathom the reasoning to.




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            4. Cerrie says:

              Yeah, but that’s another thing that they need to let go of.

              You need to let go of Pokemon reviwing. Seriously its all you do.




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            5. Cerrie says:

              Fair points. I’m still going to try it out in what I’m sure is naive optimism, hoping that they can see that I do know what I’m talking about. I don’t think trolls go around making detailed passages rewriting sections in an explanatory matter, showing what I meant from my reviews. I put a lot of effort into those rewrites and I’m hoping that the effort there proves that I’m not some random troll hoping to waste someone’s time.

              Everything you posted died when it was made public that you worked with Farla.




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            6. Everything you posted died when it was made public that you worked with Farla.

              [citation needed]




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            7. You need to let go of Pokemon reviwing. Seriously its all you do.

              Blaze, I just had to push you onto this post because you wouldn’t stop spamming a review for something completely unrelated to Pokemon.




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            8. Cerrie says:

              You keep doing it and what? 

              Seriously it sounds like the lot of you are desparte to believe you’re in the right. I can’t wait for 102 when I shatter it all.




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            9. No, we’re really not desperate. We actually have sound logic and are smart enough to figure out the difference between what’s a fallacy and what’s an actually well-rounded argument, something you simply aren’t capable of. Why are you doing this? You’re not a savior, you know. I’m sure some people that have convinced themselves that meanness equals evil agree with you, but all this was ever meant to be — al this ever was, was helping people. Tact not necessarily included. 




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            10. @ Blaze: Wait, I think I get it. You think that if someone’s hates someone for something, then the hater has legitimate reason to expect them to shut up about something just because someone disagreed with them or hates them, don’t you? Is that really how you think, if so. But you keep leaving remarks like:

              “Seriously you know I hate you so why do you delude yourself to think differently.”

              There are other remarks elsewhere, I think, where you said something like “Why do you keep doing this if you know I hate you?” Point in case, we’re not doing this to please everyone. If someone hates you for something, good — maybe you stood up for yourself. Being hated doesn’t mean that you’re in the wrong, it just means that you’re hated. *Possibly for totally undeserved reasons.*

               




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            11. Cerrie says:

              Wait, I think I get it. You think that if someone’s hates someone for something, then the hater has legitimate reason to expect them to shut up about something just because someone disagreed with them or hates them, don’t you?

              No. Seriously Reeds what’s with you all and trying pseudopsychology to expain any of this.

              “Seriously you know I hate you so why do you delude yourself to think differently.”

              D you even know what Context even is? Because I posted that in response to this.

              Yes. That has always been the entire point of this. You’re welcome.

              Which again is me pointing out how delusional they are for thinking someone who hates thenm woould give praise.

              Point in case, we’re not doing this to please everyone. If someone hates you for something, good — maybe you stood up for yourself. Being hated doesn’t mean that you’re in the wrong, it just means that you’re hated.

              Actually if you continue to do it and you only get hate then you are in the wrong.




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            12. “Actually if you continue to do it and you only get hate then you are in the wrong”

              AHA! YES. I got it. You pointed out exactly what I was trying to get at there. Thanks. No, people’s hating you does not mean you are wrong. People hating abolitionists for trying to get rid of slavery. People petitioned for gay marriage to not be a thing and hated the people working for LBGT rights. Being hated doesn’t mean you’re wrong. Whoever raised you did a piss-poor job in preparing you for the real world, Blaze.




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            13. Cerrie says:

              AHA! YES. I got it. You pointed out exactly what I was trying to get at there”

              No I didn’t. In fact you didn’t listen at alll did you?

              Thanks. No, people’s hating you does not mean you are wrong. People hating abolitionists for trying to get rid of slavery. People petitioned for gay marriage to not be a thing and hated the people working for LBGT rights. Being hated doesn’t mean you’re wrong. Whoever raised you did a piss-poor job in preparing you for the real world, Blaze.

              Is that your whole argument? Because it sounds more like your being hateful. Seriously your not the minority group fighting for rights. Your the group fighting agaist them.

               




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            14. Yes, that’s my argument, and it’s a damn good one. Anyone who isn’t grasping for straws, hoping that if they keep at it long enough that someone will swoop in and save the day with a “Blaze is right!!” can figure that out. It’s got logos, for pointing out specifically the flaws in your arguments, specifically how you like to say that if a large number of people agree, then they’re in the right (that’s the bandwagon fallacy, folks). It’s not pathos, for relating how being hated isn’t a good indicator for what’s wrong by relating it to fights that most people agree for just ones, like fighting for slavery to be abolished. And it’s got ethos, because I literally just picked out how my argument is sound, using terminology that indicates that I know what the hell I’m talking about.

              You want to talk minorities getting discriminated against? The only three people active in this conversation as of right this moment are St Elmo’s Fire, Farla, and myself. Counting everyone who is a part of Dragon Quill in lieu of supporting Farla, I’d say we number less than 10, while we get to deal with the collective hate of idiots like you, who can’t figure out the difference between constructive criticism and trolling someone.




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            15. Act says:

              [Seriously your not the minority group fighting for rights.]

              You’re aware of what we do here, right?




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            16. Cerrie says:

              Yes your yelling at new users to get what you want the Pokemon fandom to be.




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            17. Act says:

              So… no, then.




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            18. Cerrie says:

              Actually yes that’s really what this all has become.




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            19. Act says:

              The only one yelling is you, kiddo.




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            20. Cerrie says:

              I’m 23 and unless your 50 you can’t reasonably call me that.




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            21. Keleri says:

              I’m  11  so  STFU.

              In seriousness Blaze, I think you’ll feel better if you work on your fanfic and/or do your spring break homework before monday rather than argue with strangers.




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            22. Cerrie says:

              I’m off work the next two days. Also why do you think I’m not replying every second.




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            23. Farla says:

              Ah, so you’ll finally have time to answer me about how you weren’t lying about how deletable signed reviews are! I look forward to it.




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            24. Cerrie says:

              Shut up Farla.




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            25. Cerrie says:

              Seriously why are you guys upvoting this stuff? Its all lies that you believe.




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            26. GrittyGrant says:

              I’m 23 and unless your 50 you can’t reasonably call me that.

              Considering the abundance of grammatical errors and your strangely contructed sentences in your post, I’m honestly concerned about you.  23 years old and your English is that lacking? I feel bad for your beta reader.

              Heck, even if English was you second language, I’d still be concerned.

              People will refer to you as “kiddo” because you act like one.




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  3. Cerrie says:

    Once again, this belongs in the Anime world. It’s really annoying when people aren’t able to filter out fic from canons they’re unfamiliar with. Please be considerate and do this simple thing.

    Again no one uses this bullshit. Its easier to search characters then worlds. Hell most writers don’t even use the god danm worlds and mix whatever the fuck they want. Oh and they did it to piss you off.

     

    God your so inconsiderate and so removed from everyone else its fucking annoying. People can literally write take the stories to you and receive no negative reparations. 




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        You fell for literal bait from someone who literally write a take that to you.




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            Hey St, if they refuse to listen the first time you reviewed they won’t listen the second. I just got to counter review you at an authors request because of it.

             

            For all your crap about letting people disagree with you, you sure act like an annoying little troll when someone chooses to ignore you.




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              [citation needed]




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            2. Blaze, you do realize that a lot of people are actually helped out by this, right? I know you like to subscribe to the belief that everyone thinks we’re evil and only take information that supports this theory of yours, but a whole lot of people — just about everyone on this dang list of PMs in fact, even, are appreciative of what we are doing. Specifically what St Elmo’s Fire was doing regarding this PM chain, but the person you just reviewed was asking me for further advice. Can you just please stop being an ignorant nitwit and think rationally for all of five seconds? It won’t kill you, I promise. It might sting once you realize that you’ve been a bit of an idiot, but it’s not the end of the world, admitting that you were wrong. 




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            3. Cerrie says:

              Blaze, you do realize that a lot of people are actually helped out by this, right?

              At best its only the dialogue bit. Everything is ignored our outright hated. Hell several of the writers have given me praise for picking apart the reviews Reeds. Then they block you.

              I know you like to subscribe to the belief that everyone thinks we’re evil and only take information that supports this theory of yours, but a whole lot of people — just about everyone on this dang list of PMs in fact, even, are appreciative of what we are doing.

              Here’s a realization for you.

              SevvyOmahgawsh chapter 1 . Apr 26 OK a few things. One, their i think shows ownership or something like that. There means a place, and they’re means they are. Two, based off of reading this i think i agree with your opinion even more. three, at first you say Elmo is a boy, then a girl. Which one? Either way, I agree. Elmo has left reviews on my story, and they are very annoying. Also, if it seems like I am bad at language arts related things it is because i am bad at it. Seriously, out of things like verbs, adjectives, pronouns, and so on, I only understand what a noun is. :PSevvy, out!

              That’s public on a story that tells St to screw off.

              OverlordoftheAbyss.

              It seems like you pm me cause you were disappointed, with the whole *sigh* thing. Are people on this blog getting angry at me or something. I know about Elmo’s whole flame raid. He once flamed my friends story and they were gonna stop writing. I had to convince them otherwise. The review he gave me wasn’t like the ones he normally leaves. He is pretty harsh in the review but I didn’t see it as his normal flames. The review actually gave me a few ideas. I am in no way justifying his actions. I’m not natural mean or harsh and I’m not gonna go around doing things like him. I’m just a writer trying to make my story better.

              Yea. The did a pretty harsh review on the Pokemon writers. That’s the very first time I saw a flame from him. I didn’t find out until later how bad it hurt them. They only started writing again because I gave a good review and now they have a ton of chapters. He definitely kills and destroys a new writers drive. People who have been writing for awhile it migh not bother. I know someone who just laughed at his review. I looked at it and man it was stupid. It was entirely a flame. It’s the first time I’ve gotten a review from him and I’m glad I didn’t get it when I just started writing. Hey it’s no problem. I’m kind of glad you brought it to my attention. I checked out the blog. Quite uncalled for. One reason I deal with Elmo so well is cause I’m cool with harsh. I beta for a writer and we had been friends for awhile. He doesn’t sugarcoat things but he’s not like Elmo. He is still nice about it. So if your harsh I’m not gonna take offense or hold a grudge or anything. I’m just gonna ask. If I can help in anyway I will try and see if I can. Also man you pm back really fast. That’s gotta be the fastest response I’ve ever seen.

              Yea. I’m not sure blocking him will help much. If we could somehow know everywhere he reviews we could help. Because with all the new stories out their it’s hard. I really just wish he didn’t flame and just left constructive criticism.

               

              Sorry what was that? I can’t hear you over the realization that even People who “like” it still hate it!

              Specifically what St Elmo’s Fire was doing regarding this PM chain, but the person you just reviewed was asking me for further advice. Can you just please stop being an ignorant nitwit and think rationally for all of five seconds? It won’t kill you, I promise. It might sting once you realize that you’ve been a bit of an idiot, but it’s not the end of the world, admitting that you were wrong.

              You can’t admit your wrong? How am I the twit?

               




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            4. @ Blaze … Because you’ve been doing your damndest to petition to like-minded people… you twit. All you’ve done is show us that there are people who think like you. Big deal, so what? If the biggest thing you have to show me is the goddamn bandwagon fallacy, we’re done here. 




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            5. To go further, I would like to remind you that I started this whole shindig with trying to rip St Elmo’s Fire a new one. I still think that tact is a good thing, but I can at least acknowledge that he’s not a troll. He’s doing a good thing, just not a *nice* thing. Are we on the same page now? Or at least the same book?




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            6. Cerrie says:

              Let me get this straight. I just pointed out that two of your so called “Helpeds” hate you and what happens? You refuse to listen.

              How about someone who has a whole chapter that exists sololy for this?

              This is just an author’s note.

              I am, intentionally, writing this as a chapter instead of a PM.

              To this St. Elmo’s Fire guy,

              This is my story, isn’t it? I can put the dialogues in any way I like or want to. And I don’t think my grammar is so bad that you felt the need to put this long review in this story, lecturing me about those, so called, grammar mistakes which I don’t think I even made.

              Mind your own business, okay?

              Not enough for you?

              Hello! I hope you enjoyed my first chapter! Also, this a co-fanfic I guess, for my and said friend are working on this together. Also, when it comes to reviews, don’t waste your time with hate messages, I just skip them, but if you have ideas/creative criticism for me, I will do what I can.

              I get praised at the chapter end. Why is it again that I’m a Troll?

              Because you’ve been doing your damndest to petition to like-minded people… you twit. All you’ve done is show us that there are people who think like you.

              Fallacy. I only counter review or contact them about it. They decide to block you mostly after recieving a review from a Elmo’s.

              The fact they take my advice afterwards just points to how out of touch you really are.

               




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        1. Hey so funny story, Blaze, I just talked with brtnvm and they said that not only did they not write the story as bait, but they’ve barely talked to you at all.

          Can you stop lying, please?




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      You have a point when I said you only go out looking for like-minded people. You don’t go after only like-minded people. You just only pay attention to those of like-mind.

      Seriously again your trying to justfiy your efforts? You reallly are sinking low…. 

      The person who I just reviewed, who you JUST review-reviewed, actually appreciated my efforts, Blaze.

      So do several of the users who just banned you and I brought up. Seriously Reeds you think one verus say 20.

      telling people that we’re evil without letting them come to that decision themselves,

      I don’t need to tell Enkis. They came to that on their own. I simply given them a warning. You prove me write, or I counter review St and I’m priven right! God danm it Reeds stop thinking in your world. I don’t lie. I simply don’t need too.

      hoping that it sticks (probably because you genuinely feel that you are right) is another flavor of troll.

      You just descripted St, Farla Talarc, you and everyone else here.

       

      Seriously you are all trolls. That have done this ten years. Now someone say “No” and you try to dismiss them.




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        I don’t lie. I simply don’t need too.

        So hey Blaze, when are those signed reviews that can definitely be deleted getting deleted off my story?




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          So hey Blaze, when are those signed reviews that can definitely be deleted getting deleted off my story?

          Pretty sure that was  someone else you have too talk to.

           

          Also you think that’s a lie? I didn’t know so that’s not a Lie Farla. You really have a narrow minded view of people.




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            So when you said that “Yes, they can be removed if the user who made them ask for it. I should know as I managed to get one removed when I messed up. In fact, fanfiction has had that ability for years now.” you not only did not know and were lying about that, but were also lying that you had done so, and further lying that it was a specific feature they’d had for years now?




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          Keep holding to that bandwagon, I’m sure it’ll help. No, when someone comes into the fray with *actually sound reasoning,* then they engage in civil debate.

          HAHAHAHAHAHAHA I love this Your so delusionalYou don’t want to admit that I’m right!

          I should know, because my complaints are right now taking up most of a forum topic on the fanfiction forums.

          No your just yelling the same things over and over again despite evidence to the contrary.

          It’s only when we get trolls like you, who think they’re being clever by throwing words at us without any *actually* valid support for it that we get aggravated.

          I’m sorry St getting blocked, a user praising me in author notes, another posting a story to take that at St, and another taking time to write a chapter agaist you?

          Reeds your pathatic. No other words can describe the amount of bullshit that your reasoning has and how far from reallity you are.




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          1. Either counter my points with valid evidence or GTFO. I have no time to humor an idiot strutting around claiming that they’re right because they’re right. 




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              1I’ve countered your god danm Arguments. You GTFO. Seriously your just yelling the same shit over and over again at this point were as I have posted Evidence after FUCKING Evidence. I don’t even know these PEPLE What are you just going to constantly yell at me until I stop? No not going to happen. So why don’t you stiop my arguments?




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            2. Farla says:

              What are you just going to constantly yell at me until I stop?

              Is that how it’s worked for you in the past? Make multiple accounts, chase people across multiple sites, shout…? Do you keep a list?




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            3. I’ll repeat this for the last time. The. Bandwagon. Fallacy. Is. Not. Evidence. 




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            4. Cerrie says:

              I’ll repeat this for the last time. The. Bandwagon. Fallacy. Is. Not. Evidence.

              I will repeat this once ahain. I don’t use bandwagon I just post counters to you and I get people to listen. That’s not bandwagon that’s just you refusing to admit your mistake until its too late.




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            5. Cerrie says:

              Is that how it’s worked for you in the past? Make multiple accounts, chase people across multiple sites, shout…? Do you keep a list?

              I have one account Farla. No matter how hard it is for you to understand I only use one. Which is more then I can say for you and St having gained up on dozens of users during jaunary, or with Talarc.

              Seriously your all ganging up on me right now because I dismmiss you and threaten your believe that your “good people” or some other nonsense.




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            6. Act says:

              Is that how it’s worked for you in the past? Make multiple accounts, chase people across multiple sites, shout…? Do you keep a list?

              This strikes me as the heart of the matter. I suspect they’re used to bullying their way into being right and are getting progressively more agitated now because it’s not working.




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            7. Cerrie says:

              This strikes me as the heart of the matter. I suspect they’re used to bullying their way into being right and are getting progressively more agitated now because it’s not working.

              One I’m used to being bullied myself. Second I’m more doing this to act as a permnent voice of reason. Thirdly I only have account on the website.

              Seriously why is that hard to understand?




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            8. Act says:

              Speaking of hard to understand, out of curiosity, what’s your native language?




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            9. Cerrie says:

              Valgur Latin. 

              Your asking a dmb question so you’re getting a dumb answer :P




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              1. Act says:

                Your IP puts you in the lower midwestern US, which is… unsurprising.




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            10. Cerrie says:

              Steorotyping much?




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          2. No your just yelling the same things over and over again despite evidence to the contrary.

            Blaze, you’re the one who kept screaming that no one uses the world feature even after I showed you it’s used by over 20,000 people in Pokemon alone. We’re not dismissing you because you disagree with us. We’re dismissing you because your statements have no connection to reality, and when that happens no productive conversation is possible.




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              Blaze, you’re the one who kept screaming that no one uses the world feature even after I showed you it’s used by over 20,000 people in Pokemon alone.

              I recall that being less the 40% and I precall the other communities with it hovering at less the 20 or even 4 percent.

              Oh and their are the few stories who you did it but where actually already in it! Hell I even linked you to one!

              We’re not dismissing you because you disagree with us.

              Your dismissing that A LOT of people disagree with you. Your even dismissing that People agree wiith me when I give them a second opinion or heave forbid. When You show that I’m right with my warning!

              We’re dismissing you because your statements have no connection to reality

              Reality is my statement holds a lot more weight then yours. Seriously its like you are dismissing me out of hand because “Oh no she disagrees with us!”

              and when that happens no productive conversation is possible.

              You refuse to actually have one and continue to post what You consider criticism with no regard to other users. I’m not the one who refuses. You are.




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            2. I recall that being less the 40%

              40 does not equal zero.




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            3. Cerrie says:

              Still pointless. Escpecially given Pokemon having a world tag is rather dumb as no one besides you complain about it.




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            4. Cerrie says:

              Yes I checked its only you who complains about it. Its obvious to everyone ese.




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            5. Cerrie says:

              I say this is the most produced argument yet. At least you all admitted to being hated though predictably you replase into “We’re not wrong, you are”. We’ll try this again tomorrow.




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            6. GrittyGrant says:
              Escpecially given Pokemon having a world tag is rather dumb

              Yes because a section with 94.8K stories and rapidly growing could absolutely not use any means of sorting base universes. Absolutely not.

              Seriously how is telling someone to put it in the approriate world a bad thing?  What is the “Animé” world swept under the rug and you’re afraid you won’t get as many click because it wouldn’t show up in the “Games” section? My, my. This is almost as bad as those who had stories with lots of swearingbut still kept it at T rating because the default filter doesn’t show M rated stories so they wanted more clicks.




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            7. I actually just encountered someone who said they purposefully didn’t label their story as anime so it got more clicks. THIS IS WHY I HAVE TO DO THIS.




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            8. Cerrie says:

              No St it just prove me right. Hahahaha. In fact people do it just to piss you off is  so funny.




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            9. Cerrie says:

              Seriously how is telling someone to put it in the approriate world a bad thing? What is the “Animé” world swept under the rug and you’re afraid you won’t get as many click because it wouldn’t show up in the “Games” section?

              You really don’t get why that’s not a problem do you? The Anime world has exculive characters and Character tags. This isn’t Star Wars were the main characters have Legends and Canon counterparts. Or Transformers who have like 100 different Optimus Primes spread out across univeral Streams, no Ash has no game counterpart… niether does Paul, Trip, every episode of the day character, Astrid, Max.

              Seriously Red actually has more of a reason to have the tags given he appeared in all the media.

              Oh and its not like the same series has two independant catagories?

              https://www.fanfiction.net/book/A-song-of-Ice-and-Fire

              https://www.fanfiction.net/tv/Game-of-Thrones

              Oh wait that happens. You know despite Game of Thrones being a Song of Fire and Ice and the books having a TV tag it instead gets its own Community because fans couldn’t be bothered with this.

              That tag is by a large part useless when it severes no propurse.

              And I just removed United Destiny’s world tag because again. Its stupid.




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            10. Hey Blaze so you do know I filter out anime fic, right? As in I literally never see it? If you want to protect authors, shouldn’t you be encouraging people to label their anime fic so they never encounter me?




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            11. Cerrie says:

              Hey St that’s bullcrap as mine was Anime tagged until just an hour ago and you still reviewed my story.




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            12. Cerrie says:

              Hell their are users who you done this too with no regard anyway!

              https://journal.media/fan-fic-review-peeves




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            13. Cerrie says:

              Don’t lie to someone right too their face Elmo.




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            14. Oh right, looks like your story was posted in January? I do actually review anime fic during that time, as per Farla’s request that we cover everything. But otherwise, no, I filter it out.




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            15. Cerrie says:

              Oh right, looks like your story was posted in January? I do actually review anime fic during that time, as per Farla’s request that we cover everything.

              Excuses, the link? What’s your excuse for being an asshole to that person?

              But otherwise, no, I filter it out.

              Yeah well no one else does it in large parts, hell there’s been pushes to remove the world tag.

               




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            16. there’s been pushes to remove the world tag

              [citation needed]




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            17. EC says:

              Yuuup. No doubt you’ll be trying tomorrow, just as you are today. 




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            18. Cerrie says:

              I should say the same to you Elmo’s.




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            19. Cerrie says:

              You don’t even know what absurd humor stories are about and what do you do? You  do?

              I’m going to review this absurd humor story and critique it as literature,

              Seriously Elmo you have no funny bone in your body and act like your the best thing this fandom ever had.




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            20. EC says:

              Is this part of your Turing test?




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            21. Oh but Blaze, I thought reposting PMs was the gravest of sins?




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            22. Farla says:

               What is the “Animé” world swept under the rug and you’re afraid you won’t get as many click because it wouldn’t show up in the “Games” section? My, my. This is almost as bad as those who had stories with lots of swearingbut still kept it at T rating because the default filter doesn’t show M rated stories so they wanted more clicks.

              It’s not even that coherent an objection. It’s just Blaze saying the opposite of whatever he says.

              The T/M distinction actually does reduce viewers and motivate people to fudge things, but the World default is no filtering, everything shows up. If you don’t pick any of the three worlds, than your story doesn’t show up at all if anyone tries filtering for one of the three worlds. The only time picking a world makes your fic disappear is if someone uses the secondary – filter to remove a world, and the point someone is explicitly trying not to see your fic is the point where it is super unlikely you’re going to be getting read by them.

              (Also, the whole question of what proportion of people use them is laughable given almost older fic is going to be unlabeled due to being posted before the Worlds option existed.)




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