The Other Pokeauthors, Part 123

“Fun fact: Outside of fan fiction, I actually wrote an original story and got it published under my real name as a paperback, and that was BEFORE I began writing that fanfic of mine based on Diamond and Pearl, so don’t you EVER try to tell me that I can’t write, mate. I can clearly write well enough to convince people to pay me MONEY for it. Let’s see your counter-argument for THAT one.”

People really have no idea what we do here, do they?

re: Your review to fool rushes in
19 Aug01100001
A response to your review at https://www.fanfiction.net/r/13039585/

Thanks! And they did, yes. It was part of Aethers ongoing research on Ultra Beasts like the Type Nulls.

re: Your review to A Parents love
19 AugTheFlameGardenGuardian
A response to your review at https://www.fanfiction.net/r/13038855/

Thanks for the review! I put it as M rating because I was a bit afraid some people would tell me to do so. I don’t want it to be seen as porn or anything, even though it doesn’t even mention it or anything….but I’ll change it later today.

I’m not too familiar with some things in writing, and I never heard of Ellipses before since none of my schools ever brought them up or anything. Can you explain, please?

Yes, but the reason I had for that is because all the strong pokémon would be able to band together to protect themselves, and defeat possibly many of the threats that end up at their home while the weaker ones wouldn’t and, obviously, would be very easy catchings. They could be trained to be much stronger then before, fights, and they would be easier to contain since they wouldn’t be able to fight back as well as a very strong pokémon would be able to.

It’s a tad bit early when I write this and also busy with trying to get ready for school tomorrow, so sorry if I ended up sounding rude! Also sorry for my response to my very first story and such..I..was not in a good place at the time or snything.

secs agoEllipses are the three dots you use to indicate long pauses or people trailing off, like… this…
4h agoAh. Thanks for explaining!
Review Response
19 AugJust a Kuudere
A response to your review at https://www.fanfiction.net/r/13038849/

Ok, will do. Each paragraph responds to a different note in your review in your order.

Pokémon names and moves are Capitalized in the games and on Bulbapedia.

That was a pun. And an intentional one, at that.

Yeah, that is what it means. It sound like you’re just afraid of “big” words or something.

I guess I didn’t directly mention it, but Kirlia uses telepathy to talk with Alcina. I did mention that Kirlia has the Telepathy ability, though.

I’ll fix that once I get a chance.

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The asterisks are meant to obscure which word is being used, not just because of vulgarity. Also, this is an adventure/comedy story, not a drama.

Yeah, it seems I forgot. I had intended to add some in to translate Alcina’s “chuunibyou” lines. I’ll add those in when I get a chance.

This chapter mainly introduces the main characters. Aaron and Xander were the ones battling when Alcina arrived. Next chapter will be introducing Aaron as a character and likely the plot.

Sorry, I was flying between states all day yesterday and didn’t have time to get on.

secs agoCapitalization arguments go here: https://www.fanfiction.net/topic/11834/55376155/1/Capitalization-Thread

[That was a pun. And an intentional one, at that.]

Okay, I see it now. But it’s still not a very good pun. A pun refers to a play on multiple meanings of a single word or phrase, not a misspelling that happens to sound like something else.

[Yeah, that is what it means.]

Can you elaborate, please?

[I guess I didn’t directly mention it, but Kirlia uses telepathy to talk with Alcina.]

That still raises the question of why Alcina is okay with the trainer system that treats pokemon as animals and subordinate to humans when he knows they have human-level intelligence.

7h agoThat is subjective.

/dictionary/retort

Pokémon and trainers are partners. Also, Alcina is a girl…

secs ago[Also, Alcina is a girl…]

Sorry, typo.

[That is subjective.]

Yes, and?

The definition for retort I’m seeing is “say something in answer to a remark or accusation, typically in a sharp, angry, or wittily incisive manner.” Can you explain how that definition is accurate in this instance?

[Pokémon and trainers are partners.]

Pokemon are kept in stasis capsules and thrown into battles where they must obey humans’ orders, yet they gain nothing from any of this while the human gets all the fame and credit. This is fine if they’re animals, or if you introduce other wrinkles to ensure pokemons’ safety. But the canon setup does not mesh well with the idea they’re of human intelligence.

Criticism
19 AugPaige McCarthy
A response to your review at https://www.fanfiction.net/r/13040211/

Thanks for the advice! I understand what you mean with the pronouns and everything, but my computer screams at me when I try anything else. I try to keep to lower case but it just sometimes can’t be helped.
Some of the stilted dialogue is actually based on how I am when I wake up or how my siblings are. One thing we all have in common is that we mumble. Badly. Which means we tend to speak more to ourselves than the person waking us up. It is usually me especially who speaks so randomly eloquently and stiffly first thing in the morning because that is just how I tend to speak when angry, and being woken up isn’t going to be me or Eve’s thing.
About the chapter seeming insubstantial, I really get that. Honestly, I thought the same but it has been sat there on my laptop for so long that I just needed to post it as an attempt to motivate myself to write more for that one. I’m all over the place with writing and struggle getting the actual chapters written around plotting out the entire thing before even attempting to put it into detail. I need to stop doing that, because this happens and I focus more on the long term notes and less on the actual story.
There will be a reason why Eve has the ability to talk to pokemon and while I would rather you stick around to find out in the next chapter, I have a feeling you wouldn’t, but it is for the same reason as N could, which I thought was the safest route to go while still utilising that incredibly interesting aspect of Pokemon Black.
The mindless chatter between them was actually intentional. There isn’t going to be a great deal of proper down time with them all, so I wanted this to really be the chapter where I lay out there friendship and just really show them to be the rather mindless, excitable, self-absorbed teens that they are before they have to take responsibility for themselves as they go on a journey. I want to try and angle the later chapters to show the contrast in their friendship as they mature, but right now they are just kids without even a pet to show them how to be responsible, so they are going to be a bit immature.
About the birthday thing, I have seen my brother sit there, sip a cup of tea for about half an hour and only realise when we drag a pile of presents in front of him that it is his birthday. Fortunately, Eve isn’t that bad, but it took her a minute to wake up enough to stop rambling and actually think straight.
That hint at the start of the chapter isn’t going to be touched upon for a long time. That’s something I have quite a few routes for, but haven’t yet decided which to go for.
I do actually have a bit of a bad habit with speech marks that probably stems from the amount of time I spend writing out the script rather than writing it normally, so I need to stop that. Thank you for pointing it out!

secs ago[Honestly, I thought the same but it has been sat there on my laptop for so long that I just needed to post it as an attempt to motivate myself to write more for that one. I’m all over the place with writing and struggle getting the actual chapters written around plotting out the entire thing before even attempting to put it into detail.]

Well, if you aren’t enjoying writing something, that’s a sign your readers probably won’t enjoy it either. A lot of writers give the advice that if you’re not liking how the story is going, you should rework it until you do. It’s kind of a “work smarter, not harder” thing. In particular, I’d argue that simply skipping over this opening and starting at the journey, where exciting things start happening, might have worked better here.

If you’d like more advice, these threads discuss writing trainer journeys in more detail:

https://www.fanfiction.net/topic/11834/143219856/1/Actually-Writing-an-OT-Fic-Part-1
https://www.fanfiction.net/topic/11834/143363660/1/Actually-Writing-an-OT-Fic-Part-2
https://www.fanfiction.net/topic/11834/143662066/1/Actually-Writing-an-OT-Fic-Part-3

[There will be a reason why Eve has the ability to talk to pokemon and while I would rather you stick around to find out in the next chapter, I have a feeling you wouldn’t, but it is for the same reason as N could]

Okay, but notice how N was immediately horrified by the trainer system and dedicated his life to dismantling it. I know canon handwaves it as all Ghetsis’ lies, but it does a p***-poor job of selling it. The Unovan characters are constantly saying pokemon aren’t people (“People and pokemon”) and citing as evidence for the trainer system being fair and just the pokemon doing everything for the humans. In general, it should strike someone as *really weird* that they’re treating talking, sentient creatures as pets.

19m agoI think of N’s reaction being a matter of perspective. Eve isn’t going to be like N in the way I think you might be interpreting it. She just spent a prolonged period of time while young with only pokemon to look after her. She was then not only picked up again by humans but was old enough to retain the idea of her father, who was a trainer, therefore not leading her to hate the idea of the trainer system as she was already aware of it when she was with the pokemon. I think that for Eve it would have been a matter of survival with the pokemon she was staying with rather than building a full life with them and never knowing any different. Being so young, Eve would have been impressionable to her parents’ beliefs and would not have questioned them. In her mind, her father wasn’t a bad person for being a trainer as she only ever saw him playing with his pokemon and linked that to her playing with the pokemon looking after her. She did not see the difference and when she was old enough to do so, she did not look back on it intensely enough to question those memories, especially as I think that everyone has hazy memories at best of when they were that young. Eve also knew that it was weird that she managed to develop that ability. I won’t expose how, but she had people there to tell her that it would be best if no one knew that she could talk to pokemon, the exception being her family.
Honestly, it isn’t that I don’t enjoy writing, it is that I end up so caught up in the long run and the subtle hints and the minor plot points that I add in to make the story my own that I neglect the actual writing aspect. I love the planning the most, which is reflected in my extensive notes and the amount of research I conduct. My writing, however, is not the best as a result, but I have so many ideas for this one that I just want to get this first section out there to make it final so that I can move on from it. Perhaps it isn’t actually a case of needing to skip this section, but more thinking of it as a prologue to the journey as I believe that it will be necessary for many aspects of the later chapters, especially as I added so many subtle hints to it.
Again, thank you for picking this apart for me, as some of the points you are raising are making me evaluate every choice I am making. I have, of course, thought about some of this while planning, but having to explain it allows me to really understand why I wanted to plan certain things and which parts need clarification in the published piece.
Question
19 AugHereIGoWritingAgain
A response to your review at https://www.fanfiction.net/r/13038081/

I’m sorry, just soooo many things you’re saying is going over my poor little head. Do you think you can dumb it down for me? What do you mean by flame? And what do you mean by Sunnihan deity? And what do you mean by typo? I just don’t get it.

secs agoI’m not sure what you’re trying to accomplish here.
1h agoSame to you buddy

secs agoI believe Farla’s already answered that one over here: https://www.fanfiction.net/topic/11834/24493256/1/NaRe-Review-FAQ

I also remind you that blocking is a much more productive option if you don’t want my reviews.

24m agoI also remind you that not reading is a much more productive option if you aren’t satisfied with my story. That I write for fun. It’s not that deep bro.

secs agoThat argument has never made sense. One can’t know one doesn’t like something until one has read it.

Other more productive options: just ignoring reviews, or posting your story on one of the many other websites where you can actually stop people from commenting if that’s what you want.

7h agoOther more productive options: just stop nitpicking for things that are simple grammatical errors or bagging on the idea of SYOC stories. Because you said you didn’t like those ideas of those stories and yet you must have noticed that it was in the summary. Weird huh?

secs agoAs Farla said in the thread, stopping would actually be less productive to what we want to accomplish.

Now instead of talking past each other again, I want to reiterate: it seems you would be happier if you switched to a site where you couldn’t get these kinds of comments at all. If it’s specifically us you’re bothered by, we don’t review on any other fanfiction site, so you could move to e.g. Archive of Our Own without issue. Why don’t you?

21m agoI haven’t read the thread so I wouldn’t know lol and I’m happy just fine on this site buddy. And I’m not even that bothered by you. you’ve really just been pretty amusing actually so thanks for that. And I don’t know who you mean by “us” since it’s just you haha I think your friends or whatever are leaving you or something

secs ago[And I’m not even that bothered by you]

Then why are you talking to me?

8h agoAs I said, you’re amusing
secs agoYou sound more frustrated than amused. I remind you that you’ll need to block me if you don’t want my reviews in the future.
1h agoI remind you that I don’t care, feel free to leave comments ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Your reply
19 AugEclipticvibe
A response to your review at https://www.fanfiction.net/r/13035877/

appreciate your feedback. My story might not be for you. First of all it is a mixed world so one individual world tag wouldn’t help.
Capitalizing the name of the pokemon is fine as they are a proper noun. Not everyone likes that I understand but I’m writing this story for myself.
Dialogue is unique and follows all sorts of rules. I will continue to write as I see fit.
I break my author notes at the end of my story in bold it’s how I have always done post script.
Hopefully you are able to enjoy my story but if not there are many others that you can read.
Take care.

secs ago[First of all it is a mixed world so one individual world tag wouldn’t help. ]

As I said in the review: This is true even if you’re using elements from the games, as while game elements can be slotted in without disrupting much, the anime is highly character-focused and I can’t really get engaged if I’m not familiar with those characters.

Honestly, I genuinely don’t understand this argument. Blending the anime and manga, sure, but the game is the default world. The characters are either simplified versions of their anime and manga counterparts or complete blank slates. What game elements are you including that would be incompatible with the anime?

[Capitalizing the name of the pokemon is fine as they are a proper noun.]

No they aren’t, and you should go here if you’d like to discuss this further: https://www.fanfiction.net/topic/11834/55376155/1/Capitalization-Thread

[Dialogue is unique and follows all sorts of rules.]

No it doesn’t. A lot of things in writing are matters of style, but this isn’t, and the standardized rules are there for good reasons. Please look up an actual style guide.

2m agoNot arguing. Again my story isn’t for everyone. Hopefully you find one on this site you enjoy.
Take care.
secs agoYes, you were arguing. You were making claims in response to what I said. If you don’t want to discuss something, you can simply not discuss it. Nothing requires you to respond to reviews at all if you don’t want to.
1m agoI make a point to respond to everyone that takes the time to review. Even if I disagree with what is said you still took the time to point out your thoughts. I appreciate that. I was responding to let you know that even though I appreciate what you said I wouldn’t be intergraiting your suggestions into this story.
I wish you the best of luck moving forward.

secs ago[I was responding to let you know that even though I appreciate what you said I wouldn’t be intergraiting your suggestions into this story.]

Then next time, just say that instead of insisting the reviewer is objectively wrong, because that’s arguing.

re: Your review to Ash\’s New Home
20 AugLord of Dong [not author]
A response to your review at https://www.fanfiction.net/r/13040103/

Pokemon names are always proper nouns.

secs agoDo I know you?
6h agoYou’re the guy who keeps shitposting in reviews
secs agoDo I know *you*, though? This isn’t your story. Why are you contacting me?
re: Your review to Misty in the Sunset
20 AugNorthstar Pokeshipper [not author]
A response to your review at https://www.fanfiction.net/r/13040154/

Shut up, St. Elmo’s Fire.

secs agoDo I know you?
6h agoNo, but I know YOU
secs agoEvidently not very well, or you’d know I don’t fight proxy wars. If the author wants to talk to me, they can do so themselves.

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Ginger the Barn Owl
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Subject: re: Your review to Ginger\’s Adventures in Alola

A response to your review at https://www.fanfiction.net/r/13036451/

I don’t give a rat’s butt.

Frink off!

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re: Your review to Pokemon: Anubis, The Lucario! (Revised version!)
24 AugBandicoot Sauce
A response to your review at https://www.fanfiction.net/r/12803507/

“You wouldn’t capitalise animal or mouse or dragon…”

Oh, if I had a dollar for every time you started one of your ‘reviews’ with THAT petty comment…
Seriously, don’t you have anything better to do than ruin other people’s enjoyment of Pokémon?

Do you remember how you tore my fanfic apart? You and people like you were EXACTLY what I was afraid of going into that one. I was just trying to have some good and (mostly) clean fun with my fandom and nostalgia, but oh no, you couldn’t stand for that, could you?

Tell me, Mister Totally Original Username, how many other fanfic writers have you attempted to crush the spirits of since you joined this site? And how many of those attempted spirit crushings made you feel fulfilled in life, hmm?
Don’t even try to justify yourself. Don’t even TRY to say that it’s what you do as a critic or anything like that, because what you do is not criticism.
It’s hate.
You hate the idea of others having fun with Pokémon, because in your eyes, they’re not having that fun ‘right’.
‘RIGHT’.
Who are YOU to tell anyone how to have fun? Who are you to tell anyone how to perceive Pokémon as a franchise, as a past-time, as a hobby, as anything?! Just because a fanfic doesn’t match up with YOUR personal head-canon, with YOUR personal standard of writing, doesn’t give you the right to fling your shit at it just for the sake of your own momentary amusement.

Sigh. You might not capitalise animal or mouse or dragon, but you clearly love to capitalise on the misery of others. I’m guessing someone harshly chastised YOUR writing once upon a time and you couldn’t handle it, so you had to pull a Syndrome and try to bury other writers just so you could convince yourself that you qualify as one.

Fun fact: Outside of fan fiction, I actually wrote an original story and got it published under my real name as a paperback, and that was BEFORE I began writing that fanfic of mine based on Diamond and Pearl, so don’t you EVER try to tell me that I can’t write, mate. I can clearly write well enough to convince people to pay me MONEY for it. Let’s see your counter-argument for THAT one.
And now if you’ll excuse me, I have fanfics to work on. Good day to you, ‘fellow writer’, if I can even call you that in good conscience.

secs ago[You and people like you were EXACTLY what I was afraid of going into that one.]

Then why did you post your story to a public website with a public comment feature, thus throwing it to the wolves of the very thing you were afraid of? You chose to post here, even knowing the risks. If you thought those risks unacceptable, why did you go ahead anyway?

This isn’t a matter of morality, it’s one of practicality. You are not going to be able to stop people from using this website the way it’s meant to be intended. What I’m seeing here is that this website does not align with your own needs and wants. In that case, the more productive option is to move to another website that does shield you from comments like these. Archive of Our Own lets you moderate and delete all comments as well as mark works as private, and blogging sites like WordPress and Blogger give you even more control.

[Do you remember how you tore my fanfic apart?]

Honestly, no, and if that’s what you’re upset about, you should have responded to that review so I could reference it instead of hijacking an unrelated one.

[Outside of fan fiction, I actually wrote an original story and got it published under my real name as a paperback, and that was BEFORE I began writing that fanfic of mine based on Diamond and Pearl, so don’t you EVER try to tell me that I can’t write, mate. I can clearly write well enough to convince people to pay me MONEY for it. Let’s see your counter-argument for THAT one.]

As my friend Act who has a degree in English and works at a publishing house can tell you, publishing houses will take just about anything. It’s fine to be proud of your work, but don’t act like passing some arbitrary gatekeepers makes you immune to criticism.

[Good day to you, ‘fellow writer’, if I can even call you that in good conscience.]

So when I say anything remotely mean about a story it’s the greatest sin, but it’s okay when you do it?

No response. Didn’t even block me. People continue to be disappointing.

St Elmo’s Fire,

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Story: The Boulevard of Broken Hearts
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4 Comments

  1. Ghost says:

    Do you remember how you tore my fanfic apart? You and people like you were EXACTLY what I was afraid of going into that one. I was just trying to have some good and (mostly) clean fun with my fandom and nostalgia, but oh no, you couldn’t stand for that, could you?

    What a drama queen.

    Also, Northstar Pokeshipper is another one of those FASTEF Crusaders who want Elmo and Farla to go away but don’t actually DO anything. Guess they liked that story and tried to defend it, but failed miserably at it.

    Also, probably an issue on my side, but the text is showing up white instead of black (EDIT: It fixed)

    1. illhousen says:

      White text is a thing that occasionally happens in those posts. It’s an issue of WordPress default formatting (white text) conflicting with ffn default PM formatting (black text).

  2. Act says:

    I actually made a career shift and am now solely teaching college composition as I angle for my PhD! Next time someone claims their teacher told them to do it you can now tell them you too know a teacher.

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    1. SpoonyViking says:

      Nice! Congratulations on the new job! Hope everything goes well with your PhD.

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