The Other Pokeauthors, Part 125

“Well guess what buddy?  You messed with the wrong writer.  I know you are a troll, and I know you think you’re smart.  But you screwed up.  I happen to know some of the devs in charge of this website, and getting them to lock out your IP address is just a matter of IMing them, which I already have.  Think you can make more alternate accounts?  Not from that device.  I’m going to have you blacklisted wherever you appear.  So have a nice day, and kindly go…”

Does this ever work on anyone?

re: Your review to epic pokemon creppypasta
28 Augsilverwisp1-epic
A response to your review at https://www.fanfiction.net/r/13042137/

I-I’m s-sorry Elmo-Sama… I-I’ll make sure t-to do better n-next time… p-please don’t hurt me… *tears up*

secs agoGood theatrics but lack of content and use of memes makes it too obvious, 3/10 would not be trolled again.
Aug 28Memes?
Aug 28How so?

You have received a message from:

Jewelcatcher
https://www.fanfiction.net/u/8859835/

Reply link: https://www.fanfiction.net/pm2/post.php?rid=242520103#new
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Subject: re: Your review to Family Ties

A response to your review at https://www.fanfiction.net/r/13047914/

I, myself, did not strictly state to leave suggestions in the reviews. That has simply become the mutual way of doing things around here. Look at them, not me. If there’s a problem, address every single user that leaves suggestions in reviews and not in PMs.

I REALLY don’t care. I’m here to write, not listen to others and their personal preferences. If the Pokemon Company and Nintendo does it, I follow it unless I say otherwise. If you don’t like what I write or how I write, don’t read it. You are the only one making yourself do something against your interest. You are personally subjecting yourself to content that is not of your taste for the sake of wasting others’ time with unnecessary nitpicking and whining when things are not done in the way you want them to be for you and only you. Again, I seriously do not care.

This conversation is concluded. I have work to do and you’re not paying my bills. Goodnight, friend.

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You have received a message from:

Bunnimaru
https://www.fanfiction.net/u/11062948/

Reply link: https://www.fanfiction.net/pm2/post.php?rid=242547443#new
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Subject: re: Your review to The Snowbelle City Case

A response to your review at https://www.fanfiction.net/r/13049798/

So I’ve already been informed by basically 3 people from the community very quickly that you are the famed “Pokemon fanfic troll”.  I have been away from fanfiction dot net for about 12 or so years, but back then we truly had a lovely community.   Not the kind of people who will snap up a new story less than an hour after it is posted, specifically scrolling down for things they can nitpick meticulously apart, finding things that they can comment about in a hurtful or demeaning way; cleverly disguised as constructive criticism, chuckling to themselves as the wack their little penis to how much damage they are doing to an otherwise good community.

Well guess what buddy?  You messed with the wrong writer.  I know you are a troll, and I know you think you’re smart.  But you screwed up.  I happen to know some of the devs in charge of this website, and getting them to lock out your IP address is just a matter of IMing them, which I already have.  Think you can make more alternate accounts?  Not from that device.  I’m going to have you blacklisted wherever you appear.  So have a nice day, and kindly go…

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The cutoff is so perfectly timed here. I’d also like to note that I outright said the story was good.

The author of From Hell to Heaven left a response in a story update:

“To St. Elmo’s Fire, thanks for the [minimal] criticism, but a lot of that was opinion. If yours eyes glaze over the gun discriptives, cool. But many people are interested in that kind of jargon. Specific measurements help a lot of people imagine the character. That was mostly flames, too. Literally the line part was the only helpful part. And it’s my story. If I want a camera, I’m gonna have a fucking camera. That is all. You can go back outside now. Without further adieu: Story.”

This was followed by them getting swarmed by the sockpuppet army. It’s a shame the story was wiped, because it was truly amazing to see Blaze throwing a tantrum just because this response featured the word “thanks”. Later, they also reviewed their own story to say:

“All of you, I will come after you. My profile pic is underrated compared to what I will do to you.”

To which I responded:

Review response response
29 AugHey so for future reference, people don’t get a notification when you respond to a review through anything other than a direct message (by clicking the dialogue bubble icon in the top-right corner). It’s only by coincidence that I found your response.

I’ll just say that the point of reviews is to give opinion. You’re free to take it or leave it, but it’s really silly to expect people to only give objective comments on a story, because there’s no such thing.

And no, that was not a flame. A flame is a personal attack designed only to harm. It is fine if you didn’t like the review, but please don’t devalue important terms.

7h agoCol. William Holloway
Cool. You can go outside now. I don’t give a shit, a much more respected author than you approved my work….and gives me critisimn that I put in place.b
7h agoOne who has 150k word story, and is updating 8k words each week.
secs agoIf you really didn’t care, you wouldn’t have felt the need to respond at all.

I understand if you’re upset, but this is really something you’re going to need to learn how to handle if you want to continue posting your work in a public space. You can’t control what people will say about your story here. You’re going to get comments you disagree with from time to time. That doesn’t mean you have to agree with them or that your story is terrible, but you have to be able to emotionally accept them. If you can’t, it might be a better idea to move to a different hosting site, one that gives you more control over who can see and comment.

Furthermore, and I really shouldn’t need to tell you this, threatening people is really unacceptable behavior and will get you banned from here. I’ll let you off with a warning this time, but if you do it again I will report you. You cannot talk to people that way.

9m agolol, you say that as if YOU have any control over me. Newsflash, ya don’t. I don’t like to be rude. I ALSO don’t like arrogant writers with sticks ups their ass. If YOU can’t handle insults like that, and threats, on another level, than why are you on a public site? You don’t know everything. You don’t have ANY power over ANYBODY here. You are just another writer, in this endless sea of writers.
secs ago[If YOU can’t handle insults like that, and threats, on another level, than why are you on a public site?]

I could ask you the same thing. If you understand that we have no power over you and you don’t need to feel threatened by what other people think or even give them the time of day, why are you getting so bent out of shape over this?

3m ago….because the FIRST response I had over my brand new story-one that I was going to strive for great lengths- was completely negative. I turned my comments into a war zone.
2m agoLike….what are the chances of that? Why do you guys INSIST on arguing, not only with each other, but with me.
secs agoOh, you’re upset about the drama? I am sorry for that, but you’ll need to take it up with Hybrid of Fate. I’ve been trying to avoid her for months, but she keeps harassing me. Block her and her sockpuppets if you don’t want drama. I don’t fight in reviews.
secs agoAlright, thanks. I’m get angry quickly, it gets embarrassing. I have nothing against anybody, I just get angry.

For what it’s worth, sorry.

Col. William, signing off.

Then they blocked me and reposted the story.

And Bandicoot Sauce from last time finally responded:

re: Your review to Pokemon: Anubis, The Lucario! (Revised version!)
Aug 24Bandicoot Sauce
A response to your review at https://www.fanfiction.net/r/12803507/

“You wouldn’t capitalise animal or mouse or dragon…”

Oh, if I had a dollar for every time you started one of your ‘reviews’ with THAT petty comment…
Seriously, don’t you have anything better to do than ruin other people’s enjoyment of Pokémon?

Do you remember how you tore my fanfic apart? You and people like you were EXACTLY what I was afraid of going into that one. I was just trying to have some good and (mostly) clean fun with my fandom and nostalgia, but oh no, you couldn’t stand for that, could you?

Tell me, Mister Totally Original Username, how many other fanfic writers have you attempted to crush the spirits of since you joined this site? And how many of those attempted spirit crushings made you feel fulfilled in life, hmm?
Don’t even try to justify yourself. Don’t even TRY to say that it’s what you do as a critic or anything like that, because what you do is not criticism.
It’s hate.
You hate the idea of others having fun with Pokémon, because in your eyes, they’re not having that fun ‘right’.
‘RIGHT’.
Who are YOU to tell anyone how to have fun? Who are you to tell anyone how to perceive Pokémon as a franchise, as a past-time, as a hobby, as anything?! Just because a fanfic doesn’t match up with YOUR personal head-canon, with YOUR personal standard of writing, doesn’t give you the right to fling your shit at it just for the sake of your own momentary amusement.

Sigh. You might not capitalise animal or mouse or dragon, but you clearly love to capitalise on the misery of others. I’m guessing someone harshly chastised YOUR writing once upon a time and you couldn’t handle it, so you had to pull a Syndrome and try to bury other writers just so you could convince yourself that you qualify as one.

Fun fact: Outside of fan fiction, I actually wrote an original story and got it published under my real name as a paperback, and that was BEFORE I began writing that fanfic of mine based on Diamond and Pearl, so don’t you EVER try to tell me that I can’t write, mate. I can clearly write well enough to convince people to pay me MONEY for it. Let’s see your counter-argument for THAT one.
And now if you’ll excuse me, I have fanfics to work on. Good day to you, ‘fellow writer’, if I can even call you that in good conscience.

Aug 24[You and people like you were EXACTLY what I was afraid of going into that one.]

Then why did you post your story to a public website with a public comment feature, thus throwing it to the wolves of the very thing you were afraid of? You chose to post here, even knowing the risks. If you thought those risks unacceptable, why did you go ahead anyway?

This isn’t a matter of morality, it’s one of practicality. You are not going to be able to stop people from using this website the way it’s meant to be intended. What I’m seeing here is that this website does not align with your own needs and wants. In that case, the more productive option is to move to another website that does shield you from comments like these. Archive of Our Own lets you moderate and delete all comments as well as mark works as private, and blogging sites like WordPress and Blogger give you even more control.

[Do you remember how you tore my fanfic apart?]

Honestly, no, and if that’s what you’re upset about, you should have responded to that review so I could reference it instead of hijacking an unrelated one.

[Outside of fan fiction, I actually wrote an original story and got it published under my real name as a paperback, and that was BEFORE I began writing that fanfic of mine based on Diamond and Pearl, so don’t you EVER try to tell me that I can’t write, mate. I can clearly write well enough to convince people to pay me MONEY for it. Let’s see your counter-argument for THAT one.]

As my friend Act who has a degree in English and works at a publishing house can tell you, publishing houses will take just about anything. It’s fine to be proud of your work, but don’t act like passing some arbitrary gatekeepers makes you immune to criticism.

[Good day to you, ‘fellow writer’, if I can even call you that in good conscience.]

So when I say anything remotely mean about a story it’s the greatest sin, but it’s okay when you do it?

Aug 27…So like, you do realize you still need to block me, right…?
Aug 28Seriously, buddy, I’ll try to remember your name but I can’t guarantee anything. It’s easier for everyone if you just block me.
30 AugI do not see what blocking you would achieve, and the fact that you actually WANT me to do it suggests that you’re going to keep giving me trouble if I don’t.

I’ve had some time to think over the past few days, and I’ve come to realise that I was a fool to criticise you in any regard. It was a waste of your time and mine, and now you seem determined to make a war out of what would otherwise have been an isolated incident. You’re determined to shame me, and perhaps I should be ashamed to some extent…

…But I fear you’re not going to stop there.

I’ve seen your profile page, I’ve seen what you have to say about Hybrid of Fate. Now, I’m not here to debate whether or not your claims about her are true. Whether they’re true or not is irrelevant. The point is that you’ve clearly gone out of your way to undermine her, whatever the reason…

…And I’m next on your list, aren’t I?

Rather than let this go, rather than let this be an isolated incident, rather than just ignoring my comment, deleting it and moving on, you’ve taken it upon yourself to destroy my reputation on this site, if not all across the internet.

All because you couldn’t handle a few coarse remarks.

All because you needed the satisfaction of holding something over me.

That’s why you posted my comment on your blog. Perhaps you wanted me to lash out at your review of my story all along. Perhaps you wanted someone to come looking for trouble.

Perhaps you wanted someone like me to come knocking… so you could slam the proverbial door on my head repeatedly, and laugh coldly at my expense.

Now, I’ll freely admit that I could’ve phrased my previous argument better, that I could’ve used a more tactful, if not tasteful, approach…

But what you’re doing in retaliation is just… I don’t think I’ve ever seen something so disgustingly petty, quite honestly!

Tell me something, do you see an argument at YOUR expense posted for all to see on MY profile page? On MY blog? Do you see ME trying to destroy YOUR reputation for the sake of some twisted sense of amusement or self-satisfaction?

I was considering legitimately apologising to you, hoping I might be able to find some equal footing we could share as writers, but now, you don’t even rank high enough in my eyes to be viewed with contempt.

Not that any of this truly matters, because if you think that all this is enough to discourage me from keeping up my writing, keeping up my passion, then you’ve got another thing coming. You haven’t ‘won’ anything, mate. No matter how many people you might successfully drive away from me, there will always be those unbiased enough to decide for themselves whether I’m worthy of their time, rather than blindly believe the word of one fellow who thinks he’s king of the hill.

So go have your laugh, go have your fun. Perhaps you’d even like to post THIS mesage on your blog as well, along with a series of your own remarks to undermine its integrity. Go right ahead, because in the end, this entire feud is meaningless and regardless of how long you try to drag it out, eventually no one will care. I’m not even sure why I should.

And if you’re wondering how I know about you posting my comment on your blog, a certain mutual friend of ours gave me the heads up. You know, the one who’s a ‘compulsive liar’ and is ‘all talk and no real threat’? If you truly believe she’s no threat, you wouldn’t be so determined to keep her in everyone’s bad books.

Which begs the question: Do you see ME as a threat? After all, I’ve just proven that I can see right through you. If you’re genuinely afraid of someone who can see you for the kind of person you really are, then that might explain a lot. It also means that you need help, because that is not a healthy way to live your life, mentally speaking. If I actually cared, I might be worried for you.

3h agoBelay that last message (for the most part)! It just came to my attention that you’ve listed on your profile page that you post EVERY Private Message you receive to your blog, and while I’m not entirely sure I’d consider that ethical, it does mean that you weren’t trying to single me out or anything like that.

…And now I feel like a jerk for accusing you of all that. Awkward.

I guess I need to make sure I have all the facts before I act. After all, you can’t spell ‘fact’ without ‘act’. Or something.

Yes, I know this sounds like a half-hearted apology, but I do feel pretty stupid for… well, making an idiot out of myself for not the first time. Heh. Story of my life, amirite? (:

Awkward levity aside, I suppose I should admit that I have indeed been talking to Hybrid of Fate, and before you panic or fly into a rage or anything like that, let me make a few points clear:

1. She contacted me first.

2. All she told me was that you uploaded my comment to your blog. That’s all. Nothing else. Whether or not she did so with the intent to cause trouble remains to be seen.

3. I would advise refraining from contacting her about this yourself, assuming you haven’t already done so. It’s clear from your respective profile pages that you two are (or at least were) feuding, and I don’t want to be responsible for unintentionally causing a feud between other writers, or worse, getting caught in the middle. Having one person mad at me is bad enough.

So, there you go. My sorrowful attempt at saying sorry. You can just FEEL the quality of my writing. You can just TELL that I was right to rub my status as an author in your face, hash-tag sarcasm.

Sigh. Look, I’m tired, so I’m gonna go now. Hope this has helped our situation a little. I’d rather not be at war with you forever. It’s okay, you can throw it back in my face if you want. This time, I ain’t got a leg to stand on.

30m agoFine. Good. Whatever. You’re unblocked. Now I’m going to bed. Do us both a favour and don’t reply to any of these. Like I said, I don’t want to drag this thing out any further.
secs agoI’m just going to say you really need to stop being so paranoid. Nothing I did at all implied I was singling you out or personally attacking you to begin with, and it really not healthy that you’re so quick to fly off the handle. You were the one dragging this out and making it into a “war”, not me. Please take a step back and look at the situation rationally the next time something like this happens. Especially if you want to make it in publishing, moderation is a skill you’re going to need to learn.

The Hybrid of Fate situation is covered here: https://www.fanfiction.net/topic/11834/171837508/1/Hybrid-of-Fate-Dragon-s-Blaze-sockpuppets-and-friends

re: Your review to Dream No More
30 AugThe Grand King
A response to your review at https://www.fanfiction.net/r/13050467/

Thank you for the review and I know I made some errors and I’ll definitely fix the ones you did point out, and you don’t have to worry about the OC thing it only for when I ask for one or two to get the readers involved, but I only use them when I am sure that I can incorporate them into the story.
And I just looked through the rules/guidelines again and checked, and I’m afraid I disagree with the idea that teasers are not allowed.

I’m sorry to ask this but since there appears to be a general dislike to your comments by most people could you perhaps PM me instead for any future advice/criticisms. I know that it may seem rude but I think that it is just easier for both of us if we communicate through PM Thank you for not flaming me and I hope that we do get to talk again.

secs ago[since there appears to be a general dislike to your comments by most people could you perhaps PM me instead for any future advice/criticisms]

There’s not a general dislike, there’s just one troll using sockpuppets to harass me. If you want to avoid drama, block everyone listed here: https://www.fanfiction.net/topic/11834/171837508/1/Hybrid-of-Fate-Dragon-s-Blaze-sockpuppets-and-friends

Another reviewer explains why we don’t give reviews through PM here: https://www.fanfiction.net/topic/11834/24493256/1/NaRe-Review-FAQ

10m agoOkay, thank you for pointing that out. I used both of the links and I can see where you are coming from. Thank you for reviewing and replying when I messaged you. If you want you can continue to review the normal way and I’ll respect that. Just make sure that you don’t start any fights or anything like that. Please don’t take that the wrong way and think that I thought that you did It is just a warning I’ll be giving to a couple of people.

Thank you for the advice and criticism!!

Your constructive criticism
Aug 31BathTime Poet
While I usually welcome and appricate constructive criticism, a full (or at least partial) in depth analysis of my fan fiction was unwarented. While you are not wrong in pointing out grammatical errors in others works it is more benifical to both you and the author of you ask them before you post. This would ensure that you don’t come across as attacking them, meaning you won’t have to waste whole paragraphs explaining how you hope not to offend them. I would also suggest PMing them rather than leaving your review in the comments, otherwise you might embarrass young writers and discourage them from showing their work again. Constructive criticism is important, but like everything there is a time and a place for it. Many people use fan fiction as their first place to write and explore their creative voice, please dont discurage that. If you are so passionate about grammar perhaps you could consider freelance work? There are a lot of online opportunities and you wouldn’t have put in the effort of editing for free.
17h ago[it is more benifical to both you and the author of you ask them before you post]

No, it isn’t.

This is a public website with a public comment feature. I am allowed to use that comment feature to express my thoughts, just as you’re free to ignore them if you don’t find them valuable. If you are not comfortable with this, there are many other hosting sites you can use that give you greater control over who can see your story and who can comments, such as Blogger, WordPress, and Archive of Our Own.

10 Comments

  1. Ghost says:

    This was followed by them getting swarmed by the sockpuppet army. It’s a shame the story was wiped, because it was truly amazing to see Blaze throwing a tantrum just because this response featured the word “thanks”. 

    Guess who got screencaps!

    Thank you for the advice and criticism!!

    Now see, if more people could just say that instead of “OMG, you suck so much, like how dare you criticise my story!!1!” we’d have a healthier community.

    I REALLY don’t care. I’m here to write, not listen to others and their personal preferences. 

    But you clearly do care or you wouldn’t be complaining :p

    Also, I skim read Bandicoot’s thing, but it looked like more whining over how you “tore his story apart”.

  2. Roc says:
    [I’m here to write, not listen to others and their personal preferences.]

    I don’t think Jewelcatcher knows what the “Public” in “Public Writing Site” means. Especially one that has a PUBLIC review feature.

    [I happen to know some of the devs in charge of this website, and getting them to lock out your IP address is just a matter of IMing them, which I already have.]

    Someone in Farla’s forum made this same basic claim last April about how they personally knew people in the FFN staff and how they were going to delete her and Elmo’s accounts.

    Long story short, nothing happened.

    [Constructive criticism is important, but like everything there is a time and a place for it.]

    Yes there is. This is a PUBLIC WRITING SITE with a PUBLIC REVIEW FEATURE. Peoples’ comments (including constructive criticism) on others’ work is to be expected.

    [Many people use fan fiction as their first place to write and explore their creative voice, please dont discurage that]

    I think people like this user severely overestimate just how encouraging a writing site is supposed to be.

    1. I seriously do have to wonder why anyone tries the “I AM TOTES FRIENDS WITH THE ADMIN WHO WILL TOTES BREAK THE RULES FOR MY PETTY VENGEANCE” gambit. As soon as a few days pass and nothing happens, the other person learns you’ve got absolutely nothing on them. This instance doesn’t even work as intimidation, because they said they already reported me, so I might as well go out in a blaze of glory anyway! It’s so bizarre.

      I think people like this user severely overestimate just how encouraging a writing site is supposed to be.

      Well, feedback can be very encouraging. Authors often cite comments as a big motivation to keep going, because it shows their work is getting traction. If you’re just writing in a void you may not think you’re doing anything worthwhile and stall out.

      Of course, what this means is that no reviews at all are often more demotivating than bad reviews, so doing as they suggest would be even worse for this.

      1. Roc says:
        [Well, feedback can be very encouraging. Authors often cite comments as a big motivation to keep going, because it shows their work is getting traction. If you’re just writing in a void you may not think you’re doing anything worthwhile and stall out.

        Of course, what this means is that no reviews at all are often more demotivating than bad reviews, so doing as they suggest would be even worse for this.]

        I do agree with this and this is a valid point, but that wasn’t the only thing I meant.

        I don’t think this user realizes that a public writing site isn’t exactly the best place for newbies, at least not FFN anyway. The public review feature means that people out there will say almost anything and beginners often don’t have enought faith in their stories or in themselves to be able to shrug off really negative comments.

        I’m not saying newbies can’t at least try, but most of them don’t really know what posting your work for the whole world to see really means.

      2. Ghost says:

        “I seriously do have to wonder why anyone tries the “I AM TOTES FRIENDS WITH THE ADMIN WHO WILL TOTES BREAK THE RULES FOR MY PETTY VENGEANCE” gambit. As soon as a few days pass and nothing happens, the other person learns you’ve got absolutely nothing on them. This instance doesn’t even work as intimidation, because they said they already reported me, so I might as well go out in a blaze of glory anyway! It’s so bizarre. “

        To try to force you to apologise and do as they say. It’s like I say to people who try to use the “Wat dey do iz illegal!!1!” argument as their excuse for harassing you guys: If it was so illegal and against site rules, the admins would’ve zapped you a long time ago. I mean, this has been going on long enough that the admins would’ve noticed by now, so yeah, no, not illegal, just unpopular :p

        1. Except they also blocked me, so I couldn’t even do that.

  3. Observer says:

    Well, this was certainly entertaining. Keep it up.

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  4. Act says:

    Does this ever work on anyone?

    Other 12-year-olds?

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  5. Keleri says:

    What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in Fanfiction School, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret edits on Bulbapedia, and I have over 300 confirmed stories.

    You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

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  6. Hyatt says:

    I have been away from fanfiction dot net for about 12 or so years, but back then we truly had a lovely community.

    snerk Just keep believing that, buddy. FF.net community has always been shit.

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