The Other Pokeauthors, Part 139

“I never said the story was going to be following Pokemon canon”

Fuck you
6 NovPeter Fredrick
Get off this site you fucking idiot
secs agoDo I know you?
1h agoYou spam people’s story reviews
secs agoI believe you may have me confused with Hybrid of Fate. Can you provide an example of what you’re talking about?

Mysteriously they went very quiet after this. Still haven’t blocked me, though.

Review
10 NovEldergi
A response to your review at https://www.fanfiction.net/r/13110130/

Cheers for the tips, I’ll take them into appreciation should I consider rewriting this (which probably wont be a while).

However, there is something you should know, I was warned by someone called Hybrid of Fate that you would be a ‘bully’ or ‘troll’. I’m not sure if you’re aware of this but they’ve been going around PMing people with fics to watch out for you and a few other people. Just thought i’d give you a heads up incase some people take this the wrong way.

You have received a message from:

Samyueru
https://www.fanfiction.net/u/6200899/

Reply link: https://www.fanfiction.net/pm2/post.php?rid=246388109#new
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Subject: re: Your review to Camilla, The Chosen One Anew

A response to your review at https://www.fanfiction.net/r/13116156/

I do use Grammarly on my laptop, one of the reasons why I have so many incorrect grammars on here is that I rush into things and I skip a bit on a few details and don’t have a strong of a focus when it comes to actually correct things like commas and such, I had been looking for a proofreader(I forgot what the people like that are called on this website), but I had been no such luck when I was looking for my older stories that I had given up on. You don’t have to apologize, I love the fact that your giving the time of day to even help me learn what mistakes I made even though you didn’t have to. You’re not being negative, just trying to be helpful.

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Then they blocked me. ???

re: Your review to Pokemon: Primordial Fury Unleashed
10 NovPokeDopes
A response to your review at https://www.fanfiction.net/r/13116787/

Just so I can clear up one thing from the get-go: I’m not trying to start any argument by saying the stuff I’m about to say. Unlike most people, I take things in quite a lax manner. I hope you take my views on what you said in your review with that same manner, otherwise I’ll simply not reply to any further reviews put up by you and completely ignore them.

So, the grammatical errors you pointed out: Super Helpful. I proofread my writing carefully, but sometimes things slip through, except that if you look at any official Pokemon names, they’re always capitalized, so you are wrong on that.

Opening my story with exposition is my attempt at trying something different. It is quite clear to me that you don’t like it, or you perhaps feel that it doesn’t work too well. Okay, can you blame me for trying though? I might just have to try out different things until something “Clicks”. I don’t prefer to follow standard procedures. Makes me feel like I’m being creatively limited.

NOW, the next thing you mentioned, I feel, is nitpicking based on lack of details. Obviously I will never be able to get into the mind of the reader, but I at least want them to use a bit of logic behind it when reading.

I had written this: “For thousands of years, the Pokemon dealt with it. Trillions of battles were fought between Pokemon, millions of pounds of work had been put on them, and they couldn’t do anything about it. For Pokemon, the dream of running free and wild again was what seemed to be a long lost dream… until the day a Pokemon lashed out at it’s “Owner”. According to what the humans called “the news”, the Pokemon seemed to have ripped off it’s owner’s face partially due to being fed up from constant battles it was going through. This single event sparked a rebellious attitude in almost every Pokemon stuck inside a Pokeball.”

you wrote in your review:
{You say “trillions” of battles were fought between Pokemon, and going by canon the modern system seems to have been around for quite a while, a century at least}

Okay, I understand why you’d point this out, but guess what? what if I wanna change things up a bit? I never said the story was going to be following Pokemon canon. As for the answer to your question: Why it never happend before until now? Simple: None of them had the guts to do it. It took a crapload of time for one to finally snap and say “That’s enough, I’m not gonna be used as some toy anymore.”

Think about it for a second, in the beginning when Pokemon were first confined to pokeballs, they probably just accepted it. But once word got out through wild Pokemon seeing what humans did with their Pokemon, any wild Pokemon that was caught was basically a ticking time bomb. As previously stated, because most Pokemon had to abide by their owners, they all probably couldn’t bring it upon themselves to harm them. If someone was annoying you on a daily basis, how long would you tolerate it before the inevitable “snap” that you’ll do to them to make them stop annoying you once and for all? Exactly, it’s just like that. They didn’t wanna be used by the humans anymore, begun to get fed up, and then one decided to finally snap.

The base Tl;dr of things that involve canon stuff, I feel, when talking about FanFiction, are not always going to be obeyed. A canon thing isn’t some law we all have to follow. Fanfiction exists because some of us like to bend the rules a little bit. Of course, it is also fan-made stories and not all of them break their canon source.

Another thing, I wrote: “It was at this time that the legends of the hall of origin began to finally call upon every wild Pokemon in the world. The goddess of all Pokemon, Arceus, lending a war cry of anger and rage, had declared full war upon the humans, saying that “All humans must be killed, if they aren’t killed, then they will kill us and make what we’ve currently achieved pointless.”

And in response, you wrote: “I’m sorry, what? The gods didn’t lift a finger while their chosen people were being enslaved and abused but now that, due to their own negligence, it’s finally boiled over into overt war, they’re suddenly going to take a side? How does that make any sense? If the gods truly cared, things should never have gotten this bad in the first place.”

They’re Pokemon gods, they don’t HAVE to care unless they themselves are in any form of danger. If someone was insulting someone next to you, a complete, random stranger, there are two options, 1:To care and tell the bully to stop it. or, 2: Not care because you aren’t the one being bullied. basically “It’s not my problem, why should I deal with it” mentality.

I felt like you were nitpicking on that as well, but you also wrote that canonically, they don’t care. Which further proves my above statement!

They don’t have to care until they’re in danger!

Overall: I feel like maybe 2 or 3 things in your review were actually helpful to me, otherwise you’re just being nitpicky. Just wanna tell you one little thing for the future when you put up a review: Nitpicking on canon stuff doesn’t make a story better. It’s fiction for a reason, none of it is real. If you don’t like what someone has done, then don’t nitpick on it. Hope you have a nice day.

secs ago[I never said the story was going to be following Pokemon canon.]

Yes, you did, by saying it was Pokemon fanfic. Fanfic is assumed to follow canon by default; that is the entire point of writing fanfic as opposed to original fiction. If this is an AU, explicitly label it as such. Even if you meant to convey that pokemon training is very recent in your story, “trillions of battles” implies the exact opposite.

[Why it never happend before until now? Simple: None of them had the guts to do it. It took a crapload of time for one to finally snap and say “That’s enough, I’m not gonna be used as some toy anymore.”]

That does not make sense to me.

Pokemon are incredibly powerful. They vastly outperform humans on almost every possible scale. Humans do not have armor plating or magic powers. Even moreso than the question of why it took these god-monsters so long to realize they could do anything to squishy normies, I have to wonder how this began in the first place, which you bring up:

[Think about it for a second, in the beginning when Pokemon were first confined to pokeballs, they probably just accepted it.]

Why? Why would they just accept being enslaved? How did ordinary animals with no magic manage to enslave monsters so powerful they would be revered as gods if they existed in our world? That’s a question the canon doesn’t adequately answer either, in fairness, but in a story that focuses on this angle I expect a little more engagement with the question.

You’re writing this like it’s human on human oppression, where everyone is fundamentally equal, and that’s just not the case here. It flat-out does not make physical sense that a bunch of mundane persistence predators would stand a snowball’s chance in Hell against literal dragons (and ghosts, and fae, and demons kitsune youkai…), even with modern military technology (and there is a debate whether or not it even makes sense for them to have that: https://www.fanfiction.net/topic/11834/23620074/1/Modern-Weapons-vs-Pok ). You’re starting from a point that is simply not set up for this kind of narrative — Pokemon has spent literal decades establishing the abilities of pokemon, but it has given us almost nothing on the power level of humans vs. pokemon. For the results in your story to follow logically, you will have to do the lion’s share of the worldbuilding yourself, establishing details of the world to tilt the vast extant mythos in the direction you need. You’d need to establish clearly that pokemon magic isn’t actually much more impressive than what can be done through modern technology, pokemon aren’t actually supernaturally durable and are therefore vulnerable to bullets, pokemon can’t organize to the same degree as humans and it would therefore be possible for large groups of humans to divide and conquer individual power players… and probably a whole lot more. Instead, the details you establish imply the exact opposite — that the pokemon have literal gods on their side, that there do seem to be two clear sides to this war, that pokemon are perfectly capable of fighting back.

[They’re Pokemon gods, they don’t HAVE to care unless they themselves are in any form of danger.]

How were they in danger? I’m sorry, but that does not logically follow from anything in the story. In canon they are either in slumber, in literal other dimensions, or both. If Arceus isn’t threatened by someone DESTROYING THE UNIVERSE, why would it be threatened by some humans killing a few pokemon? I’m also baffled by you claiming they consider pokemon “complete strangers” they have no investment in, when they are the same species if not the literal creations of the gods. Do the gods have no concern for their children? The way you phrase it absolutely makes it sound like the gods are taking a moral stance and acting on behalf of the pokemon, not out of self-preservation. If that’s not what you meant to convey, you should reword it.

This is not nitpicking. I got a completely different reading of the story than the one you intended. That is a huge, existential problem with your narrative. Canon absolutely does matter. The entire point of fanfic, the cool thing you can do with it that you can’t do with anything else, is that you can skip over the exposition and worldbuilding because it’s already been done for you. But in order for that to work, that canon information has to hold true. You absolutely can bend it, outright break it even, but declare that’s what you’re doing first — and it means you’ll have to replace the bits you threw out with your own canon, which takes time and effort. Otherwise, you’ll be leaving gaps where we can’t know what we can take as canon-compliant and what’ll be different.

Essentially, this is the sort of thing that would require a whole story of setup… Thus, why I suggested you embrace an in-medias-res approach and leave the details to our imagination, as many after-the-end stories do. I appreciate that you were trying to do something different with the expository opening, but the thing about experiments is that sometimes they don’t work.

Then they blocked me and reviewed their own story to say this:

 PokeDopes chapter 1 . 10h ago

Ignore the review by St Elmo’s Fire, it’s nothing more than Arrogance and hidden insults. I don’t think he knows what he’s talking about, so just ignore them

So when they said they didn’t want an argument, what they meant is that they didn’t want me to disagree with their arguments.

They did edit the summary to say it was an AU but make no mention of the AU’s rules, thus completely missing my point.

34 Comments

  1. Red says:
    The final guy introduced himself by saying that he was lax and chill, and then he promptly proceeded to prove his statement false.

     

    I used to be a very addicted Pokemon reader in my preteens – seeing the pattern in the quality made it easy to break off my addiction. I hope these reviews are changing the qualities of the Pokemon fanfic community’s works, I truly do.

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    1. N says:
      Nope they do the opposite.
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      1. Roc says:

        Hybrid, if you’re going to make sweeping statements like that, you need to show actual evidence.

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        1. N says:
          You mean you aren’t subscribed to a blog that proofs that your efforts are pointless?
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          1. Red says:
            ..What? I’m sorry, I honestly don’t understand what you’re saying. Your statement has no relevance whatsoever. The above was my first comment on this blog.
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            1. You must be new here.

              Hybrid genuinely appears to have some kind of attention deficit disorder, and has trouble staying on the same topic for long. I had to repeat myself five times before they would even acknowledge I was asking them why they thought I was a girl, for instance.

              This is one of many reasons why it’s best to just not engage.

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            2. N says:
              I was pointing out how this blog has only succeeded in doing nothing more but serving as a reason why people should block them. They are utter jerks and serve nothing more but reiforce each idea (because being an annoying bird does not work)

               

              Hence why I am technically winning. The fandom has to choose on its own to do something. Having a tiny group of self-entitled assholes doing it does not work!

              I can just hear them trying to mentally gymnastic this whole thing. January is going to be fun! (that’s sarcasm you crazy jerks)

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            3. N says:

              Hybrid genuinely appears to have some kind of attention deficit disorder

               

              Bullshit you self-absorbed asshole! You know it!

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            4. N says:

              and has trouble staying on the same topic for long. I had to repeat myself five times before they would even acknowledge I was asking them why they thought I was a girl, for instance.

               

              This is a total lioe. Hell, thety make shit up all the fucking time. I told them the FIRST TIME that I didn’t care and was going to refer to them as I saw fit.

               

              St can’t stay on one topic more the two seconds.

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            5. N says:

              This is one of many reasons why it’s best to just not engage.

              You just did you dumbass.

              As for you red.

              ..What? I’m sorry, I honestly don’t understand what you’re saying.

               

              I literally just told you “nope” to ” I hope these reviews are changing the qualities of the Pokemon fanfic community’s works, I truly do.”

               

              Please keep up and stay on track. You were not the one who replied to me. That was Roc. So if you aren’t going to reply back to me then just reply to the one with a “nope”

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            6. Red says:
              Ah, okay. Thanks for the advice, St. Elmo’s. I am new here, it’s a cool place.
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            7. N says:

              Thanks for the advice, St. Elmo’s. I am new here, it’s a cool place.

              It’s a violation of both the service provider and the site they are getting the pms from rules. So no.

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            8. Hyatt says:
              Hybrid: /leaves four comments in a row to respond to single points, says they don’t have attention problems

              They also seem unaware of how incomprehensible they can be by being lazy with grammar and sentence structure.

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            9. Roc says:
              I wish there was another explanation for this behaviour at this point, Hyatt, but…

              Well, it’s Hybrid. She constantly denies things she actually does, she constantly says things without any evidence, and she has proven multiple times to be insane such as when she claims Farla and Co. should be dead over fandom opinions.

              At this point, she ought to be known as “Hybrid of Fate, the Paradox of Fanfiction.”

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            10. illhousen says:

              Coincidence but still funny: Hybrid TRPG.

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            11. N says:
              Never told them to be dead you assholes.

               

              Go to he’l and stop lying.

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              1. Farla says:

                You hate pokemon, you treat everyone below you, your an Alt-left sociopath and you bully people in droves. Shut up Farla I hoipe you die a slow and painful death.

                Really, Sevenways! Your words don’t disappear just because you started typing fresh ones.

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            12. Never told them to be dead

              Go to he’l

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            13. Hyatt says:
              Oooh, “Alt-Left”! Didn’t figure them to be an alt-right chud, but I guess now we know!
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            14. Embershine says:

              At this point, she ought to be known as “Hybrid of Fate, the Paradox of Fanfiction.”

              Now that’s an awesome name. If a fanlore page type thing ever pops up about all this, I hope that’s the title they choose. XD

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            15. N says:
              Do that and I will put up my own calling Farla and St out along with their group. I have one for the solo reason to counter any attempt as lying by them (which they do a lot of)
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            16. Farla says:

              Yes how utterly different that is than everything else you’ve engaged in.

              The thing about you being an awful person, Sevenways, is that we know you’re already doing everything in your power to hurt us and have been from the start. You really can’t threaten that we can’t do some new thing or you’ll get worse. 

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            17. N says:
              Your hypocrisy of threatening me because you aren’t getting what you want is cute. Also, as much as your refusal to listen to your critics. Self-absorbed prick.

              Oh, wait I forgot you hate being told to “fuck off”. If you had your way only you would be allowed to write fanfiction. Get your head out of your ass.

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            18. Embershine says:

              Funny how talking about your web of lies is ‘threatening’ to you. You really don’t like it when we acknowledge your bad behavior exists, or point out your contradictory fake stories, or talk about your obvious sockpuppeting with other authors. But then, I suppose the truth of what you are is a threat to your own worldview. The only threat here is that others may see you as you are afraid to see yourself.

               

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  2. JackPK says:
    God, even just watching you guys go back and forth with Blaze is stressful, I can’t imagine how bad it must be actually interacting with her. Is there a reason you’re responding to her and allowing her to get away with circumventing her block rather than just deleting her comments?
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    1. Red says:
      Can’t speak for them, but generally ignoring trolls is sometimes less fun than interacting, for me. Especially when they’re persistent and relentless, no matter how much they get ignored. I only have experience with teasing trolls on Omegle.com, mind.
    2. Farla says:

      Unfortunately, this last year has established her to be a bully rather than a troll. A troll wilts when it doesn’t get attention. Blaze, sadly, is just encouraged by being ignored because she’s decided that’s it’s close enough to winning, so she heads out to harass fresh people, while as tiresome and repetitive as engaging with her is, it does shut her up for a bit.

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    3. Notice also that we are engaging only in low-effort responses, which helps.

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  3. YHA says:
    Hybrid of Fire has autism.
    1. JackPK says:
      Without proof, please don’t accuse someone of a misunderstood and demonized mental health condition based solely on speculation about their bad behavior. It just makes the condition more misunderstood and demonized, and it contributes to the actual harm that actual autistic people suffer because of societal prejudices.
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    2. Act says:

      Autism isn’t an insult, and using it as shorthand for ‘shitty person’ again will earn you a ban.

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    3. Hyatt says:
      Why would you think that statement would be welcome on this site?
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  4. As someone who suffers from autism myself. I find it rather offensive of you to assume that she has autism because of her bad behavior. Please don’t say that again.
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