The Other Pokeauthors, Part 110

“listen up and i will say this only once, if you dont like the story, no one forces you to read it […] also, don’t bother to reply to me.”

I get another supporter in the Blaze conflict, however.


You have received a message from:

Midnight296
https://www.fanfiction.net/u/10087471/

Reply link: https://www.fanfiction.net/pm2/post.php?rid=236926445#new
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Subject: re: Your review to Masi The Young Pokemon Trainer

A response to your review at https://www.fanfiction.net/r/12946372/

listen up and i will say this only once, if you dont like the story, no one forces you to read it so i suggest you not to comment on any of my stories, i know you are one of the trolls, also how about to get yourself busy by writing your own stories at anything you like and stop bothering others. also i did see one of your chapter i have one word for you, it is BORING.

also for your information, i do have the ability to hook my readers up with my story the way I see it  so keep your advice to yourself.

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Subject: re: Your review to Masi The Young Pokemon Trainer

A response to your review at https://www.fanfiction.net/r/12946372/

also, don’t bother to reply to me.

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Subject: re: Your review to Masi The Young Pokemon Trainer

A response to your review at https://www.fanfiction.net/r/12946372/

you think I am going to listen to you, really? you are dreaming.

I know you a troll and several people warn me about you and others, I think you know who are the other trolls.

now first thing, the story is mine, the characters I create are mine, you have no right to tell anything and keep your useless advice to yourself.

the only thing you can help is NEVER read any of my stories and no one forces you to read if you don’t like the author’s story.

also if you think my stories are bad, I did read yours and one thing I will tell you. your stories are so BORING also go as well you are your own mistakes and errors so don’t come to tell comment to me about them if you have your own mistakes and errors and also read the comments from the other people about your stories.

you are one pathetic troll and if I see one comment from you and the other trolls, you learn in a hard way not to annoy me and others ever again.

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Why won’t anyone tell me my story sucks in an actual review? :(((

re: Your review to Pokémon:Aura Wars 3 Band of Brotherhood
24 Maybankerrtx01
A response to your review at https://www.fanfiction.net/r/12944234/

Yea I’ve heard about you I just have 2 words for you, SUCK MY DICK AMD SHOVE THE DRAGONSLAYER IN YOUR ASS! Oh what’s that that’s not 2 words CONGRATS YOU KNOW MATH GOOD BY ASSHOLE OH AND IF YOUR SUFPCH A PANSY TO NOT TAKE CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM FUCK OFF YOU TROLL LEAVE HERE AND NEVER COME BACK OR I WILL BAN YOUR ASS THIS IS YOUR ONE WARNING. FUCK YOU GOOD DAY!

secs ago[I WILL BAN YOUR ASS]

How?

This is a public website with a public comment feature. If that fact sends you into this much of a tailspin, you need to move to a site that gives you greater control over comments, such as Dreamwidth or Archive of Our Own.

3m agoOh well Dead pool I guess I have to teach you about 4th wall breaking, Break too many walls and your house gives in NOW GET THE FUCK OFF MY PAGE OR I WILL MAKE YOUR LIFE A LIVING HELL!!!
secs agoSorry, I have a policy about not enabling bullying. I will not comply to your demands until you calm down and ask me politely.
14m agoOk you want to me to calm down well prepare for the rant of a life time, in a calm and orderly fashion, ahem!

I Good kind sir, do not as of this moment, have any requests to listen to any of your bullshit noun: “stupid or untrue talk or writing; nonsense.” Why as of at this point I can see that dispite my ADHD, I’m still able to hold this conversation in a calm and orderly fashion, when you don’t have the attention span of a fly or a bee, before you have to move on to your next story or playing with your ball of string, noun,
“material consisting of threads of cotton, hemp, or other material twisted together to form a thin length.”
synonyms: see under twine, cord, yarn, thread, strand, I hope that this nuance of a conversation has shoved at least one none rotten brain cell into that head of your, that way it may reproduce and form a civic member of scocity, however due to the fact your white blood cell count exceeds the numbers of actual blood cell count I highly doubt that shall be the case. So I shall request you Head back into your lone sociopathal dungeon you call a house and return to rehab.

– your teacher Gryphon Provenzano ( Bankerrtx01)

secs agoNo. It is not okay for you to behave this way.
10m agoYou asked for calm. And orderly so that’s it, come at me anymore and I will fuck you over. Leave now or we will get into a troll war and I am stoubborn I will not relent
10m agoThis is your final warning
secs agoI’m already in a troll war with someone else and it hasn’t slowed me down. I don’t care.

I want you to reflect on the fact that you chose to throw an absolute tantrum, threaten, and insult someone over a review where the worst thing I said is that I didn’t like the grammar of the story. That is not normal or healthy behavior.

Get therapy.

5m agoOh trust me I have a therapist they shot themselves when they saw me coming in also you only saying the bad grammar how about the fact again with the bullshit comment of saying songfic’s are banned when’s I see them all the time as well as the fact the songs are just the intros and background theme music which I input for CONTEXT maybe you should actually read the story and you will find out how much it makes the shit better so take your trolling and stow it in your grandmother!
secs agoSo for future reference, if you object to a specific aspect of a comment, it’s much more productive to talk about that specifically rather than just screaming threats.

Secondly, read the rules & guidelines of posting. Songfic is explicitly banned. The only reason any of it is still around is because the moderators are backlogged, but stories still get taken down all the time.

3m agoBut again as I say the idea of my ” song fix is for contex of what’s actually happening and not only that most songfic’s don’t give the artist there respect and make it there own I do, so don’t lump those parasite’s with me,
secs agoI don’t care. I’m not making a value statement about songfic or your use thereof. I was politely warning you about the objective fact that your story could be taken down without notice.
28m agoWell if that’s the case I will then request them to slow me to put it back up with the support tab- good day sir Goodby!
secs agoAlright. Since you have calmed down, here: You can block users you don’t want to talk to through the “Block Users” feature in the left sidebar.
8h agoOk thanks or the other point is don’t comment on the my art again l( also the fact is I can’t find the sidebar your talking about lo
secs agoYes, that’s what the block accomplishes. I can’t remember every author I review. The block will prevent me from commenting. Or, again, you can move to Archive of Our Own, which lets you moderate all comments.

It’s the sidebar in your account menu, accessed by clicking on your account name in the header bar.

They did successfully block me after this.

Dragon Blaze
26 May[anonymized for protection]
Hey!
A friend of mine recently contacted me with a warning about how supposedly ‘evil’ you’re rumored to be. I did some digging of my own, and concluded you’re doing nothing wrong, and that Dragon Blaze is a little insane. I really like how you review even poorly rated stories, and especially how you give actual criticism instead of insults. Posting your PM inbox publicly shows a transparency that I also appreciate. You’re giving good advice, and stating upfront that you’re only trying to help. Even though I personally capitalize Pokemon names, partly because they do so in the games, and also for personal preference, I agree with a lot of what you say in the reviews I’ve seen. Helping writers grow is a good cause.

This isn’t really a constructive PM…I just wanted to say good luck, I guess? I’m sure you get a lot of negativity, so I wanted to tell you I admire your resolve in reviewing so many stories. You’re doing a great job, so don’t pay attention to Dragon Blaze’s reign of terror.

From what I’ve seen: Dragon Blaze received one constructive review and basically declared war. I read the review, it wasn’t harsh at all, just honest. She now practically stalks your every move, posting counter reviews on most of the stories you cover, where she disagrees with you and calls your review ‘crap’. When she does so, she contacts the story’s author, and tells them you’re a copy paste grammar nazi who flames for fun. She encourages those authors to ‘spread the word’, and tell other users to block and avoid you. (This was how I heard about this whole debacle incidentally.) She also flamed YOUR stories with her own mocking reviews. The funny part is, her reviews need a serious spell check.

Other notes: Dragon Blaze’s stories appear to have a high review count only because she has been using other accounts to review every chapter, along with anon accounts. This is only a theory, but her work doesn’t appear to merit such a fan following based on the quality…and she has an abnormally high amount of anon reviews. The actual accounts that review her will occasionally post one or two word reviews, and finish her entire 272k word story within a single day.

All this suggests to me that she has a severe problem with needing constant validation. An honest review saying she wasn’t perfect, and needed to work on a few key aspects of her writing, probably hit her straight in the soul. This explains her insane reaction, and her continued stalking. I have no intention of reviewing one of her stories with any degree of honesty after seeing her tantrum. o_o

You have my permission to post this PM to your site. However, since this girl would not hesitate to declare war, I am sending this PM via the account of a friend who no longer posts on this site. I don’t want my followers, reviewers, or authors on my favorites list to have to put up with the harassment of Dragon Blaze. I will be available for her to speak to via this account; I would simply prefer any confrontation be one on one, without involving bystanders.

Once again, your contributions to this site are appreciated. I honestly think you’re doing a wonderful job. Not everyone who sees this drama is on her side, but those with complaints tend to be the first to send messages online. Keep up the awesome constructive reviews! :D

201 Comments

  1. ? says:
    What the heck was the white blood cell thing about?
    1. Farla says:

      Maybe it’s a reference they’re butchering?

  2. Farla says:

    So, I figured the reviews were probably legit because it’s not that hard to get reviews for ship fic, but then I looked at other shipfic. And yeah, hers has an absurd amount of anon reviews in comparison and an absurd amount of those anon reviews are the same thing posted over and over, and one of the recent anon reviews is attributed to the alt Twenty4Seven. Meanwhile over on TvTropes some troper who just happens to be named that added a remarkably typo-ridden rec for her fic.

    It almost makes me regret not following Winx fandom because there must have been such glorious sockpuppet drama doing down there.

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    1. GrittyGrant says:
      Yeah, shipping fics are the hottest thing going right now it seems. As for the guest reviews, there’s one particular fellow that keep scatching my attention. It’s the person who ends all their reviews with:

      as a fellow amourshipper i have this to say to you and to all my fellow amourshippers around the globe who support amourshipping, amourshipper and proud, remember that dudes and dudettes and keep up the good serenaandashshipping work dude.”
       
      This phrase is obviously to fill out the review to avoid making it look short. It’s almost creepy how similar those reviews are, but it could be a legit person who really likes that kind of shipping.
       
      Unfortunately, people still believe that “Many Reviews=Great Story” and that quality is measured in reviews. And in Dragon’s Blaze’s case it’s that since she has a story with so many reviews that means she absolutely has a gift for writing and she can do no wrong. Anyone with less reviews is simply inferior! This buids up an obnoxious ego. I’ve seen this happen before many years ago with some guy with a story that had 4K+ reviews, and it started to go over his head. He developed attitude problems against anyone who didn’t like his story and eventually he made one too many mistakes and had his stories deleted by the staff (rating too low because of harsh language amongst most things).
       
      tl;dr My assumption is that she suffers from narcissism and that her “amazing story” that has many reviews means she’s God’s gift to writing. Frightening what an overinflated ego can lead to. I’ve always been afraid of developing an ego myself.

      1. GrittyGrant says:
        But to add to the whole “review boosting” subject, I did run into one fellow who actually posts “review counter boosts” reviews on their own story under the same account. But since they don’t’t seem to be involved in the mess with Dragon’s Blaze I’m not going ot give out their name.
      2. Farla says:

        I’ve definitely seen copypasta support, but every time I’ve seen that, it was on all the fics because the point was to blindly support your side in general. If anything, it’s far weirder that such a person would be repeatedly boosting one single shipfic than it would be for her to just have a lot of generic anon support.

        Also, the first really big fic I ran across: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11437019/1/Ash-the-Iron-Trainer which has Reviews: 187 – Favs: 593 – Follows: 496

        Meanwhile, Blaze’s best fic is at Reviews: 402 – Favs: 147 – Follows: 166

        This is looking more and more like a paper tiger situation.

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        1. GrittyGrant says:
          And to think she’s used an alt-acount to rec her own fic on tvtropes. That would be quite the low. Tvtropes fic recs aren’t what they used to be (which could be because of more self-reccing which isn’t allowed). This is certainly getting more and more interesting.

          And that “twenty4seven” fellow’s ffn account look so empty and old too. I know a lot of accounts don’t have stories on them, but they usually have favourites on them at least. Soemthing’s not right here. Perhaps we should let editors on tvtropes know that fanfic rec could be a suspected “self-rec”?

          As for the copy&paste reviewer I mentioned, I forgot to mention that they leave that review on almost every fic that has the mentioned shipping. some months back there was a big shipping war between pokeshippers and amourshippers and the less said about that the better.

          What upsets me about the whole Dragon’s Blaze thing is that for each day, more and more possible evidence that proves her to be a “cheater” of sorts is just aggravating.  Ihate people who cheats to get attention and reviewing. Cheating such as: Constantly reposting a story that is years old, SYOC, self-reccing, sockpuppet reviews to make your story look like it has lot of reviews etc etc.

      3. DLGAdmin says:
        Who cares if someone makes alternate accounts or leaves comments on their stories with alternate accounts? I looked at the rules for many different sites including Deviant Art, FanFiction.Net, FictionPress.com, and other similar sites. Pretty much across the board there is no rule against leaving comments on your own story (provided that is what Dragon’s Blaze has actually did, I have yet to see evidence backing up your claims).

        It could be that people just genuinely like the story. Or maybe they just decided to leave comments with other accounts out of boredom. You never know what a person’s motivations are. Have you ever thought about asking them directly? You might be surprised at the answer you receive.

        -DLG Admin

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    2. JackPK says:
      Luckily, TVTropes can be edited by anyone, so that rec is now torpedoed (at least, until she notices and puts it back up).

      Meanwhile, digging through Twenty4Seven’s contributions on TVTropes, I found another sockpuppet name she’s using: 25-Z, according to the comment at the bottom of this page.

      1. JackPK says:
        Furthermore, later in that thread, 25-Z references a “friend” called The Castaway Pariah and links to their profile on a My Little Pony fanfiction site, where (surprise surprise) Castaway Pariah has been accused of doing exactly the same thing Dragon’s Blaze has been doing to y’all. So chalk that up as another name to add to the sockpuppet list.
        1. Farla says:

          Huh.

          Yesterday, in the middle of a spam string of Blaze telling me she could keep commenting forever, one of the names/emails was The Castaway/[email protected], followed a few hours later by https://www.fanfiction.net/u/8039665/The-Castaway-Pariah PMing me to say “Stop harassing my friend. She told us all about you.”

          What’s weird is that as you can see the account has stories on it. At the time I thought this might mean Blaze was trying to get someone new on her side by making it look like they were more involved than they were. Now…I don’t know, maybe it is a real person and they bond over their shared love of stupid harassment campaigns, or maybe Blaze regularly adopts the names of other accounts to boost her sockpuppet legitimacy? God, maybe there’s some original innocent Dragon’s Blaze somewhere on the internet writing Transformers fic or something with no idea what’s going on.

      2. GrittyGrant says:

        Luckily, TVTropes can be edited by anyone, so that rec is now torpedoed (at least, until she notices and puts it back up).

        Hmm, did you torpedo it right off the bat or did you leave a suggesrtion for removal under suspicion of self-rec? I’d feel that without sufficient evidence that Twenty4Seven is a confirmed sock account of her that action can be a little on the jerk move as well. We’ll have to see how this unfolds.

        Although as of lately I’ve felt most fics on th erec pages have been lackluster and I’ve long suspected those being “friend-recs” ie authors asking their friends to rec for them which in my eyes counts as a self-rec.

        Still, it’s crazy how deep this rabbit hole goes.

        1. JackPK says:
          I removed it right off the bat; not knowing the politics or inner workings of TVTropes’ fanfic pages, I didn’t realize there was a suggestion option. In any case, it looks like about an hour and a half later, The Castaway Pariah reinstated it, which is all the more evidence that it’s another of her sockpuppets.
          1. GrittyGrant says:
            I see some people work fast. I’ve no idea of the inner workings of TvTropes so removing it may have put it on a remove list for confirmation. But I don’t know, Twenty4Seven (It didn’t sayCastawayPariah had recommended it) could be a fast worker and/or some of these people are lurking about here right now.

            In case they’re reading: Friend-recs are cheap. Real recs are by randoms who don’t know you.

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            1. knight7572 says:
              why can’t you lot except that she has made a story that is good enough for tvtropes and that she’s a very good writer
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              1. Farla says:

                Because she posted under that same name over here, because its only other activity was a bunch about humans being ultrabeasts back when she was shouting that we weren’t allowed to discuss the idea of ultrabeasts being connected to legendaries because it’s humans who are ultrabeasts, because the typos are the same ones she always makes, because I’ve been deleting comments here of her bragging about how she’s advertised her fic on multiple sites including TvTropes…

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            2. Farla says:

              No, doesn’t work that way.

              She’s reading here and probably watching that page, so either one could’ve tipped her off.

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            3. GrittyGrant says:
              “Except”? You spell as bad as her. Another sock?

              As someone who also has a rec on that site, I got it from numerous people I don’t know. That’s the real magic. Heck,  I used to have a rec for another story, but I found out my friend had rec’d it so I proposed to have it zapped because I fel tit was cheating.

              And these days the qualit of recs arent’ as good as they used to. Friend-recs are to blame IMO. Or I got old, I dunno.

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            4. Farla says:

              I think the problem is in fandom, there’s a hell of a lot of overlap between fans and friends. It’s hard to tell the difference between “I like this person because I found their fanfic and loved it!” and “I found this person and loved them, and now they wrote some fanfic so I’ll rec it!”

              There was a proposal back ages ago on the ginormous pokemon fanfic page to sort recs by number of people who recommended it, which would’ve presumably helped but been a lot of work to manage. I’d say the best option would be some sort of nomination system instead, where anyone can offer up a fic but several other people need to support it before it’s added.

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            5. knight7572 says:
              first i’m not a dragon’s blaze sock account, seriously get who you are talking to right it’s not that complicated and 3rd i judge the story on what i read and from what i’ve seen is very good and i’m willing to admit to dragon herself that she puts what i write to shame 
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              1. Farla says:

                Look, I know you are super invested in getting Sempai to notice you by proving that all those socks totally weren’t socks because she said so, but we’ve already done this song and dance over on my forum.

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            6. illhousen says:

              @knight7572

              So, is your post a satire, or are you seriously incapable of counting to 2?

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            7. knight7572 says:
              ahh i messed up the numbering there my bad 
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            8. GrittyGrant says:
              Well, I suspend my disbelief and take you for you words, although I do find it interesting how you showed up right after I made my “friend-recs are cheap” statement.

              And unless you write from your phone, please try to punctuate. English isn’t my first language and I’ve a hard time deciphering what you’re trying to say.

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          2. Farla says:

            Ah yeah, that’s pretty suspicious. The original account defending themselves would be one thing, and another account saying they know the person would also be normal behavior, but someone coming in as if they have no connection to the situation but find it obvious that actually this isn’t true? That’s been a pretty consistent thread here.

            I’d guess it’s a friend, though. The account does have fic, the TvTropes account looks like it’s been active independently, and Blaze seems to have run out of established alts on FFN a while ago since she made a bunch of fresh ones, and it looks like Castaway types coherently.

        2. illhousen says:

          TVTropes rec pages were always kind of a joke. You have a couple of good recs, usually for big fandoms that were around long enough to accumulate some “classic” fanfiction, and then you have garbage as far as the eye can see.

          Friend-recs are a part of the reason for it, but I feel it’s mostly just people with poor taste.

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        3. DLGAdmin says:
          I’m pretty sure there is a rule on TV Tropes about removing other people’s content. You can’t just go in and start a ‘content war’ by removing content for no reason.

          I looked at the TV tropes page and it looks like seperate accounts arer involved. The fact that you guys are going over there and are essentially removing something because you don’t like someone seems like bullying and harassing behavior to me.

          Who cares if they have a TV Tropes page? Does it effect your life at all? It just seems pretty low that you would go to such lengths to actively ruin someone’s day/ take off a page they have propbably worked hard to put up simply because you don’t like them.

          -DLG Admin

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          1. DLGAdmin says:
            *are* *probably* sorry for misspelling those words. I was typing in a hurry. My bad.

            -DLG Admin

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  3. Talarc says:

    The fact that we have to keep our supporters anonymous really illustrates the kind of person Blaze is perfectly…

    I must admit, it does amuse me a little bit when people respond by attacking your stories – not only are they doing the exact same thing they’re condemning you for, but they’re also indirectly admitting that they can’t refute your reviews at the same time!

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  4. Keleri says:

    The actual accounts that review her will occasionally post one or two word reviews, and finish her entire 272k word story within a single day.

    loooooooooool this is amazing

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    1. Farla says:

      Truly, the loss of Fandom Wank has never been felt more keenly.

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      1. GoldenFalls says:

        I’ll be honest, I’m severely tempted to make a fanlore page on this. I’m just not sure I’ve got the time and energy to do it justice.

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        1. Farla says:

          God, I wouldn’t know where to begin. I’m pretty sure what’s going on now is just the tip of a sockpuppet iceberg woven out of pure dramallama wool.

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          1. DLGAdmin says:
            Making a Fanlore page on someone with no evidence because you don’t like them is a form of bullying and harassment. The fact that you can’t see this is rather ironic as that is what you are accusing Blaze of doing.

            As far as I can tell, the only thing Blaze has done has made alternate accounts and maybe commented on her own stories with them a few times and used the alternate accounts to comment on some other places on the site. There is currently no proof of this, by the way. But I am putting forward what Blaze has been accused of.

            Even if they are doing that, there is no rule on FanFiction.Net, Deviant Art, FictionPress.com, or other sites that say that they can’t.

            So basically you guys are leading a witch hunt against someone, removing their TV Tropes pages, and even trying to make a Fanlore page about them just because they have alternate accounts.

            That seems more like bullying and harassing behavior than anything Blaze has done. I’m just saying.

            -DLG Admin

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            1. Talarc says:

              What are you even trying to achieve here? 

              You came in here demanding to see our proof that Blaze was using sock accounts. Despite links to our evidence being posted, you’ve ignored it and then gone on to say that there’s actually nothing wrong with having alt accounts at all and it’s totally us who are in the wrong for being irritated at her for using sock accounts to evade blocks and spreading lies about us. 

              But all you’ve really done is follow a train of logic that assumes our proof doesn’t exist – that logic isn’t going to convince anyone who’s actually seen the reviews, messages and posts made by Blaze and her sock accounts. You don’t win arguments by saying: “Yeah, that message you got that would only make sense if the sender had seen what you were discussing with a supposedly different user in another private message? There’s no proof of that, so it didn’t happen and you should totally accept that you’re in the wrong.”

              So, if you’re not here to find out the truth or to convince us that we’re totally wrong, then why are you here, ‘casual observer’? 

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            2. JackPK says:
              I know it’s hypocritical of me to say after having baited her all through yesterday, but I’ve thought it over and now I don’t think continuing to feed Blaze will accomplish anything. Her eight posts in a row this morning smack of desperation for attention, so just stop responding to her altogether. Deny her the fuel she wants.
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            3. Ghost says:

              Think it’s a case where they are trying to hear her out and presenting their arguments for the sake of being fair. Best to just grab popcorn and leave them to it.

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            4. JackPK says:
              Nah, that’s not productive. Trying to reason with someone who’s arguing in bad faith and gaslighting their conversation partner just enables their trolling further. We blew past “for the sake of fairness” months ago.
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            5. Act says:

              I’d advise against seeking her out and baiting her. I don’t mind if people respond if she pops up here on on Farla’s forum, but she clearly has some stuff going on and I don’t think it’s kind to poke at her.

              Plus, the sooner everyone ignores, her, the sooner she’ll get bored and disappear.

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            6. Farla says:

              I appreciate you wanting to think the best of people, but while this sockpuppet mess is incredibly weird, people coming in to be totally not involved but secretly are is not. I’ve seen lots of people come in who actually don’t know what’s going on, or actually only know what’s happening from some post on another website that slanted things. They don’t behave anything like this.

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            7. GoldenFalls says:

              One of the key things Fanlore is used for is documenting fandom drama. If you make or participate in drama—very publicly at that—it’s not bullying for someone to record that. You may claim that there’s no evidence of Blaze sockpuppeting, but you can’t claim there’s no evidence of her propogating drama and carpetbombing the review section with anti-reviews. Anything that isn’t publicly verifiable would be just point out what people said (like the ip addresses or shared email stuff), and it would be up to the reader to decide who and what to believe.

              Part of why I don’t think I have the time/energy to make a page is because I’d want to be as accurate and sourced as possible, along the lines of the Ms.Scribe debacle, but even on this much smaller scale that would take a lot of effort and I’m not sure I’m invested enough to commit to it.

              But honestly it doesn’t seem like you actually care what any of us say, other than as a means of getting into arguments and accusing people of bullying, so I’ll just leave it at that.

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            8. GoldenFalls says:

              And I just saw the screenshots, so that’d go on fanlore as evidence instead of just alleged evidence.

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  5. Ghost of Us says:
    The fact that after this went up Dragon’s Blaze started a forum thread in the Writers Anonymous forum asking if reviews marked success implies they didn’t believe they were an awesome writer because of the reviews. My guess is that the reason they went after them is that they got upset after that review and decided that they should lead a crusade against the constructive reviews.
      1. Ghost says:

        Ah, screw it. Assuming her gender’s the least of my problems.

         

        Dragon posted a forum thread in Writers Anonymous after this went up, asking if reviews were considered a measurement of success. 

         

        That leads me to believe she doesn’t view having loads of reviews as proof of her having a good story. If (I say if as I have no evidence saying she does) she is sockpuppeting her reviews, it isn’t to make it seem better, I don’t think.

    1. Farla says:

      Uh, no, it doesn’t. It implies Blaze is fishing for compliments and/or looking for a platform to argue about how she definitely is a very legitimate and sockpuppet-free author. She’s been bragging about her stats since the start and saying it means she should win any argument. “Somebody thinks my reviews are fake!” does not, in any way, lead to “Do you think my very legitimate reviews are a big enough number to make me objectively successful???”

      (She’s also had a weird hatred for reviews in general just because we give reviews, and keeps arguing that what’s really important is favorites and follows so we should stop reviewing because nobody wants reviews at all.)

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      1. Ghost says:

        Oh. Forgive me, I only recently got dragged into this mess.

        Not reviewing seems counterproductive. If there’s no reviews how will people be able to explain what they liked and didn’t like about the story? Blaze seems to have things backwards, it seems.

        1. Farla says:

          I don’t think she believes it. She just says whatever we say is wrong. “Here’s how to write dialogue.” “THEY LIE DIALOGUE HAS NO RULES BUT DEFINITELY IF YOU DO IT THAT WAY IT’S TERRIBLE!” Then if anyone does anything a review suggests, or if they’re already writing the way we talk about so she thinks they listened to us, she jumps on them and starts shouting about how nobody will read their story because they listened to us.

          1. Ghost says:

            So she’s basically a troll. Albeit one with a lot of time on her hands. 

             

            Ah well. Another headache to deal with. Might block her if she turns on me but until then it’s entertaining watching her try to deconstruct your reviews and making herself look dumb.

            (Blocking someone means you can’t see their reviews on other people’s stuff, right?)

            1. Farla says:

              Blocking just prevents reviewing or PMing. FFN doesn’t have an ignore feature, though it might reduce the drama a lot if it did. 

              At least this is getting everyone else to pay attention to reviews, and I think there’s been a couple extra reviews generated by feeling annoyed that she’s spamming anti-reviews instead of reviewing the story.

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        2. knight7572 says:
          leave while you still can seriously this is spiralling out of control
          1. Farla says:

            No one is making you be here. Well, maybe Blaze is, but if you’re taking her orders that’s kind of on you.

        3. GrittyGrant says:
          “Not reviewing” actually translates into “only positive response is acceptable”. She appears to want just “good story, pls continue. This is great” reviews which IMO are boring reviews.

          I actually quit writing because of lack of critique and enthusiasm. It’s boring when everyone just says it’s great when it really, really wasn’t.

          1. Farla says:

            That was what I thought, but when we got her to write actual reviews to show us how it was done she actually was fine telling people they’re totally wrong. She’s also got a list of things you’re not allowed to do in fanfic or your story will suck in her profile.

            Basically, she has no position but that she wants to be in control of things and we’re not agreeing with her about random things.

            1. Ghost says:

              So she’s trying to be like a control freak?

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            2. Farla says:

              It’s my best guess. The Reeds of Enki is someone who started off supporting her, decided to try out the concrit thing but nicely, and she explicitly told them that she was calling them a troll leaving abusive reviews because they were siding with us and that the reviews themselves were fine but it didn’t matter so long as they were in our camp and not hers. She’s also popped up repeatedly to announce that certain types of stories aren’t allowed (deconstruction, stuff focused on pokemon, alternate takes on canon) or that we’re not even allowed to talk about various elements of canon because she says the official word is X or her theory is Z and nobody cares about any other ideas so we have to shut up.

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  6. DLGAdmin says:
    I saw a forum post which highlighted some of the replies on here and I just wanted to put in my two cents.

    I usually kind of ignore random internet drama like this, but I realized right away that many of the accusations you are bringing against certain site users are not correct.

    Through my own investigation, I have come to the conclusion that The Castaway Pariah and Dragon’s Blaze are two separate accounts.

    This is the Castaway Pariah’s account on Fim Fiction: https://www.fimfiction.net/user/216689/The+Castaway+Pariah

    This is Dragon Blaze’s account on Fim Fiction: https://www.fimfiction.net/user/202558/Mega+SevenWays

    This is The Castaway Pariah’s account on FanFiction.net: https://www.fanfiction.net/u/8039665/The-Castaway-Pariah

    This is Dragon Blaze’s account on FanFiction.net: https://www.fanfiction.net/u/7142086/Dragon-s-Blaze

    As you can see, they each have their own stories and very different blog posts. Why would someone spend so much time creating their own stories and blogs (on two very distinct writing styles) for something as simple as alt accounts? It doesn’t make any sense.

    You can read the stories and blog posts on their profiles to see for yourself that the writing styles are very different.

    It seems like to me that you guys are leading an unfounded witch hunt against two innocent account holders.

    You can ask the site admins on both fim fiction and fanfiction.net if the accounts are alts for confirmation.

    It does seem like however that you try to give some very harsh criticisms of fanfiction.net account holders for not reason at all; even though you accuse others of doing the same thing.

    Here’s a link to the thread where other people call you out on many of the harsh criticisms you have given them: https://www.fanfiction.net/topic/11834/24493256/1/NaRe-Review-FAQ

    You might want to think about this before accusing other people of similar actions. Just some food for thought.

    -DLGAdmin

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    1. Farla says:

      You might want to bother reading before flinging your own accusations. I’ve repeatedly said the evidence points to Castaway being a friend of hers as opposed to another entry into her pile of sockpuppets.

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    2. JackPK says:
      If you are referring to the edit summary I left on TVTropes (“Invalid rec and invalid restore. The Castaway Pariah is also most likely a sockpuppet of Dragon’s Blaze, as they have been recently bandwagoning on her abusive spam on the Dragon’s Quill blog.”), you should note that I am not a member of this blog and do not represent Farla’s or Elmo’s views. In fact, it seems I disagree with Farla in this instance, since I do believe the massive amount of effort Dragon’s Blaze has undertaken in making sockpuppets (as noted in the comments on this blog for the past several months) make it not implausible that The Castaway Pariah is another sockpuppet, if not an earlier account that predates the Dragon’s Blaze account.

      For that matter, considering you’ve abruptly jumped in to defend them and have a false link on your username that goes to a non-URL that’s an transparently fake effort at intimidation, I’m not convinced you’re not one or both of them, too.

      > “It seems like to me that you guys are leading an unfounded witch hunt against two innocent account holders.”

      Assuming, at least, that you are not a sockpuppet of them, it seems to me that you have not read through the backlog of evidence in this blog that Dragon’s Blaze has been operating under at least these eight known sockpuppets and probably more.

      > “It does seem like however that you try to give some very harsh criticisms of fanfiction.net account holders for not reason at all; even though you accuse others of doing the same thing.”

      The folks on this blog have never to my knowledge accused anyone of that, nor am I aware of Dragon’s Blaze having been accused of such a thing by anyone at all. Dragon’s Blaze doesn’t give criticisms at all, much less harsh ones. Their modus operandi is sockpuppeting and spamming, not crit.

      1. Farla says:

        I’m not convinced you’re not one or both of them, too.

        I would actually go with Castaway. The only thing we know about them is they type coherently and harassed people. By all appearances Castaway only just got involved, plus their reaction over on TvTropes seems completely in line with this sort of internet tough guy behavior we see here. That said, I kept thinking Blaze couldn’t just be a pile of alts and there had to be more people involved for most of this, so my own judgement hasn’t been perfect here.

        If you’re Castaway, well, if it upsets you so much to be confused with a sockpuppet, maybe hang out with people who have more friends than fake accounts. It’s really not on us if we have difficulty telling the legion of alt-Blazes apart from people she’s called in to back her up, especially when you ascribe to the same school of insisting to have no connection to any of this and are just an innocent outside observer who happened to be highly invested in defending Blaze.

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  7. DLGAdmin says:
    The only comments I have seen here have been comments accusing the fanfiction.net account of having alts both here and on other sites.

    I have provided proof that these accounts are not alts.

    I have yet to see any comments besides the one you just posted that claim otherwise. So I was just putting my two cents in, based off of my own observation.

    I’m pretty sure that fanfiction.net has a rule against harassing site members for no reason.

    The only reason people seem to be harrasing the fanfiction.net users is because they didn’t agree with your review style.

    That doesn’t seem like a reason to harrass someone or attempt to make a big deal over something.

    But perhaps there is something that I am missing. Do enlighten me.

    I would like to have all of the information so I can come to my own conclusions.

    I am not part of anything. I am just a casual observer to all of this.

    It seems like to me that you are going on an unnecessary witch hunt for no reason. So I am providing my own thoughts on what I perceive is going on.

    -DLGAdmin

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    1. Farla says:

      The only reason people seem to be harrasing the fanfiction.net users is because they didn’t agree with your review style.

      That doesn’t seem like a reason to harrass someone or attempt to make a big deal over something.

      But perhaps there is something that I am missing

      If you care so much about harassment and you’ve identified other people as doing the harassment, why exactly are you, a casual observer with no stake in this, primarily concerned with demanding we explain to your satisfaction why some other people are being dickheads?

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      1. DLGAdmin says:
        I’m not really sure how the people on this site harassing various people with FanFiction.Net accounts translates as the site owners being the ones who are being harassed. That seems like major projection to me. But perhaps I am missing something.

        I have no relation to the people who have posted here before. I’m sure the site admins can confirm this through looking at my IP. :/

        I’m just going to send this comment section along to people who can make some proper judgement calls. One way or another, I am sure they will work things out.

        -DLG Admin

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        1. JackPK says:
          So, more attempts at intimidation.

          Bye, Blaze.

          1. Farla says:

            No, no, we might as well let this play out.

    2. Ember says:
      Hey. Another bystander here, and I think Blaze is the problem from what I’ve seen. Let me clue you in to my own observations:

      Blaze has been PMing many authors telling them to block Saint Elmo’s Fire because he’s “harrassing” authors needlessly. I was one of them. I’d never heard of her, of any of this, before being contacted out of the blue. Her aggresive tactics are the first strike against her, especially since Saint is just a normal reviewer who happens to give a lot of reviews to a wide variety of stories.

      Strike two: One of my favorite authors apparently told Blaze she didn’t agree with her after being contacted. Blaze proceeded to insult and vilify her over and over for the simple crime of liking Saint’s method of reviewing. This has been verified as normal behavior for Blaze.

      Strike three: Blaze really does appear to have many alternate accounts. They all review each other, but none of the other authors in their favorites list. Her most likely sock puppet accounts also tend to follow her around: if Dragon’s Blazze reviews a story after Saint, lstwill will back her up almost immedietly. The most damning evidence is her own defensiveness on the subject of sock puppets, which is universally shared by most all the accused accounts. No one would care so much about being called a possible alternate except Blaze. She also tends to repeat speech patterns, especially using ‘excepted’ instead of ‘accepted’, and referring to those who call her out as ‘you lot’. These are fairly unique speech quirks to be spread out among so many different accounts, which she will no doubt stop using after reading this comment.

      Strike 4: Blaze might be seen as the victim, if it weren’t for her own obsessive tendencies. She constantly does authors the absolute disservice of telling them to ignore constructive criticism given by Saint, IN REVIEWS, without reviewing their actual story. She doesn’t care about writers, or she would give real thoughts and feedback. She’s just an angry little girl with a vendetta who won’t stop screaming about how people treat her unfairly.

      In any argument, it’s easiest to tell who’s in the right by how they react. Saint has only treated her fairly from what I’ve seen. He hasn’t resorted to screaming at her, rising to any of her blatant insults, or gone on a smear campaign by PMing every author he can find like she has. He ignores her tantrum, which is the best sign of his maturity compared to Blaze that I have seen.

      If Blaze weren’t trying to involve so many other people, she wouldn’t be seen as such of a bad person. Lots of people in the fandom are just standing back to watch the show, because speaking out against Blaze could cause serious backlash.

      Look for yourself. I’m sure you’ll see what I’m talking about.

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      1. DLGAdmin says:
        It doesn’t seem like you have any real solid proof that Dragon’s Blaze has done any of the things you have claimed. It sounds like unfounded accusations and slander.

        Where are the links to the comments Dragon’s Blaze has made? Where are the screenshots of the messages they have supposedly sent?

        Until solid proof is provided, I am inclined to believe that you are making everything up.

        -DLG Admin

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        1. soph says:
          I’m pretty sure people here won’t do homework for you, much less for this since you can also hop into ff.net and see for yourself. 
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        2. JackPK says:
          Demanding that we go to a lot of effort to organize and collate this proof and wrap it up with a nice neat bow is an abusive tactic designed to waste our time. Nice try, Blaze. You know all the proof is archived on past posts if anyone cares to go looking for it.
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          1. Farla says:

            I’m almost certain now that this can’t be Blaze. I guess we really are meeting Castaway! And coming to understand how they got banned on sight in that other link.

            Of course, having defined “harassment” as “pointing out Blaze did a thing”, listing evidence would just lead to them saying that’s fake and therefore harassment. The posts Blaze herself made? Faked evidence, something something internet lawyer cease and desist these attacks on very innocent Blaze who they’ve never met.

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          2. DLGAdmin says:
            Asking for someone to provide proof for slanderous statements they are making towards another person is perfectly reasonable.

            You have no proof that Dragon’s Blaze has done anything wrong yet you continue to make accusations against them.

            That is called Slander.

            Either provide proof that your claims are true or don’t expect to be believed by those who see no proof of your accusations.

            I personally am more inclined to believe that the people running this site are being abusive towards various FanFiction.Net users, based on what I have seen posted on the site and the comments left by other site users.

            I am open to being wrong about this but that is what I have observed from reading through various posts and comment sections.

            In any case, I really have nothing else to say. I’m just an outsider who has witnessed this take place.

            I hope other people won’t get the same treatment I’ve seen on this site.

            Any form of bullying or harassment is never okay.

            -DLG Admin

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            1. Farla says:

              You have no proof that Dragon’s Blaze has done anything wrong yet you continue to make accusations against them.

              That is called Slander.

              Hey…do you have any proof we made this all up? Because I’m pretty sure insisting we’re a pack of liars without any proof of it…hm, would there be a word for that…?

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            2. DLGAdmin says:
              There is actually quite a lot of proof out there on the internet that you quite frequently bully and harass FanFiction.Net users.

              Here is one such source: https://onewingedmuse.deviantart.com/journal/Fanfiction-Troll-229048457

              You should read the comment section made by the mulitudes of people who have been bullied and harassed by you. It is very telling.

              I could share many more sources but I’m just a person passing through.

              -DLG Admin.

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            3. Farla says:

              A post made back in 2009, but with a comment just a few days ago from Blaze at the top. 

              Haha, coincidences, am I right? You are definitely very much an uninvolved person in all this who is not at all trying to change the subject.

              You know, it’s funny, but I’m not seeing any “proof” in that post. It looks like it’s a person saying things about me, which we established is slander. Why didn’t you jump all over them about how they don’t have screenshots? And hey, look at this:
              https://37a8.deviantart.com/journal/A-warning-to-any-Pokemon-Fans-little-to-join-fanfi-742814873

              That sure looks like somebody just saying things without any proof! And not just about me but a whole pack of people.

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            4. Ember says:
              Blaze, can I tell you a story? I almost believed you, this time. But you messed up.

              My roommates sister has been talking to you via PM for a few days now. In her messages, she said she ‘had nothing else to say’, even though she was an ‘outsider who witnessed this’, and that she would ‘hate to be treated the same way you’ve treated saint’. Sound familiar? This message was sent to Dragon’s Blaze within the past few days, and is now being unconsciously mimicked by you.

              We proofread for each other, and have both heard from others about your puppet show of fake accounts. When you first contacted her, of course she told me. I looked over her message to make sure it wasn’t too harsh. If I asked nicely, I bet I could get a screenshot.

              So tell me. What are the odds that a completely unconnected account would say almost those exact words within a few days of them being said to Dragon’s Blaze?

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            5. Observer says:

              Farla, that post contains nearly the exact same words that were messaged to me from Dragon’s Blaze when I uploaded my first pokémon fanfiction!

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            6. knight7572 says:
              what pokemon fanfic?
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            7. Farla says:

              Knight, looking at a wall of evidence that Blaze harasses anyone who speaks against her and deciding all you want to say is, “Hey, can I have more identifying details?” is kind of not good.

              And we did first meet by you trying to trick some uninvolved person into a fight with me by lying and saying I was about to attack them. I’m going to ban you because you seem to only want to use your posting ability here to hurt others.

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            8. Farla says:

              What are the odds that a completely unconnected account would say almost those exact words within a few days of them being said to Dragon’s Blaze?

              Welp. JackPK, you were right and I was wrong. Of course we’re still stuck in sockpuppet hell. Of course! Why did I think things would start making sense?

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            9. Act says:

              If this is a sock, at least she’s finally figured out that using an extremely identifiable broken English is a shitty way to convince everyone you’re not multiple people.

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            10. DLGAdmin says:
              If you actually spend the time reading through the comments, you will find quite a lot of people who talk about how they have been bullied and harassed by you. But of course you don’t want to share that. It looks rather bad for your image, doesn’t it?

              There are actually many posts out there that highlight your bullying an harassment of other users. Here are many more of such posts.

              Here’s an entire thread on Reddit where people talk about the bullying and harassment of both Farla and St. Elmo’s Fire: https://www.reddit.com/r/FanFiction/comments/65ll0j/pokemon_fandom_reviews/

              This entire forum is filled with people who talk about your harassment and bullying: https://forums.khinsider.com/fanclubs/154808-fan-dumb-critics-club-rebooted-version-42.html

              Really the list just goes on and on. But it’s not really worth sharing everything as people won’t listen anyway.

              In any case, I hope that you can stop your bullying and harassment campaign against Pokemon authors on FanFiction.Net. Bullying and harassing people is never okay.

              -DLG Admin

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            11. JackPK says:
              So, no response to why two people have independently identified your speech patterns as Blaze’s? Not even an attempt at denial? You’re getting boring, Blaze. Go back to the illiterate persona, at least that one was halfway funny sometimes.
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            12. Observer says:

              Looking at another link, I have confirmed that Blaze’s account is the same as 37a8’s from deviantart.

              https://www.fimfiction.net/blog/807195/stop-asking-about-my-stories

              I suppose that isn’t much of a surprise, considering she links to 37a8’s deviantart on her own page.

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            13. DLGAdmin says:
              Well JackPK, your speech patterns seem very similar to Farla’s. In fact there are a few comments on this entry which seem suspiciously to mirror Farla’s speech pattern.

              However, I won’t make any assumptions unless I see further proof that can back up these claims.

              -DLG Admin

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        3. Hyatt says:
          The people who run this blog have given more evidence of Blaze sockpuppeting and harassing them and others than you have of them harassing her. So by your own standards, they’ve provided more than enough proof.
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          1. DLGAdmin says:
            I have provided actual links of people talking about Farla bullying and harassing them, sometimes with screenshots.

            The people on this site have provided no evidence of Blaze doing these things at all besides a few stories from people which doesn’t amount to evidence.

            Where are the screenshots? I certainly provided them in my posts. At this point, the entire comment section sounds to me like gossip. A bunch of people have gathered together to gossip about someone and keep adding to the story with no links, no evidence, and no screenshots.

            So forgive me, I do not believe any of the things they are saying about Dragon’s Blaze until I actually see evidence.

            -DLG Admin

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            1. Ember says:
              I know you shouldn’t feed the trolls, but I couldn’t resist. Here is a screenshot proving Dragon’s Blaze and lstwill56 are the same personlstwill56 .

              Note that they use the same style of bracketing Saint’s reviews, respond with the same things, and most importantly, review a story for the sole purpose of refuting Saint…NOT to actually give the author feedback.

              Also I hope I chose the right format link. Here’s hoping lol

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            2. Ember says:
              Nope, wrong format, here’s a link instead.

              https://imgur.com/l5aomIv

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            3. Farla says:

              Yeah, a while back Indiscretion linked a couple screenshots as well, including a situation where she accidentally posted the same thing twice to the same story under different accounts:

              https://imgur.com/a/xZMeJht

              Blaze responded by ignoring it in favor of totally different accusations, just like this person enjoys doing.

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            4. Ember says:
              This is glorious. XD There really should be a fanlore page detailing all her lies.

              I’ve got links to the forum where she screamed at Saint to take down her bad review, and I’ve seen the PM where she tells someone ‘this was never about my review, Saint made that up’. (same PM thread I referenced earlier, actually)

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            5. ? says:
              What I want to know is, what is “Game Freak’s handbook”?
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            6. guest says:
              You do realize that all you’ve provided are links/screenshots to… a bunch of people gathered together to gossip about someone and keep adding to the story without providing evidence, right? You can’t dismiss people’s stories here about bullying and harassment and then turn right around and say that other people’s stories about being harassed are totally valid.

              To delve into your posted links: even if taken at face value, the worst that Farla is accused of is leaving reviews that people don’t like and holding  stances on capitalization/canon that people don’t agree with. These are differencesin opinion. Holding a different opinion, and even telling someone about that differing opinion in a firm way, is not harassment or bullying. Somethinglike, I don’t know, posting on every single story asking them to block people you don’t like, is harassment. Guess who is guilty of doing what?

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            7. DLGAdmin says:
              To me, it seems like this site is a community of bullies that rally together to bully people in various fandoms.

              I have no association with the opinions found in the links that I posted. But it seems like there is a good amount of people who have been bullied or harassed by both Farla and St. Elmo’s Fire.

              At this point, it isn’t really worth discussing. People are going to keep justifying their actions both here and in other places. 

              The only thing I can say is that I am not Blaze. Nor am I affiliated with any other of their friends. You can probably get this information from the server host who can see that I have a unique IP that is very different from the other log in information.

              I’m just a casual person who stumbled into this (from something posted on Kiwi Farms) and decided to put in my own two cents.

              It’s always sad when fandoms have to deal with this kind of thing.

              I’d like to hold on to the hope that the people on this site are better than that and can move past making broad accusations or unfounded criticisms about random people with really no proof to back up their claims.

              Also, for the record, is isn’t against the rules of Deviant Art, FictionPress, or many other sites to create alternate accounts. So I really don’t understand why you guys are obsessing over the fact that the Blaze person has alternate accounts. So what? Even people on YouTube have alternate accounts. It’s not really a big deal.

              If the biggest complaint you have against the Blaze individual (or their friends I guess) is making alternate accounts and leaving comments, that is pretty crazy. Who cares? lol I know of people on various sites I am on (including Kiwi Farms) which have multiple accounts as well. Literally no one cares.

              If the other complaint is that Blaze doesn’t agree with your reviewing style, well so what? I honestly don’t agree with it either. It kind of seems like this community bullies people who they don’t like. 

              Constructive criticsm is about giving authors ways to improve their work and encouraging their creative process. That’s just some food for thought.

              Well anyway, I don’t know what else can be said. Having alternate accounts is no big deal, really on any site I have come across. Look at Twitter; people do full out role plays on there with all sorts of multiple accounts. By your logic they should also be banned. :’)

              That’s about all I have to say about that. I do hope that the review community can get better in various fandoms. Hopefully this format will not become the standard. I guess only time will tell whether or not the reviewing process improves.

              -DLG Admin

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            8. You can probably get this information from the server host who can see that I have a unique IP

              As you are almost certainly aware, this is meaningless because Blaze is using an IP spoofer. Get her to stop doing that and maybe we’ll believe you.

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            9. JackPK says:
              In addition to all the other obvious tells that you’re Blaze and you’re lying, searching Kiwi Farms for any term related to this results in absolutely nothing. You aren’t a casual person who stumbled into this from Kiwi Farms, because there is no mention of this on Kiwi Farms at all. Lie better. Learn not to say things that can easily be disproven.
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            10. DLGAdmin says:
              There is actually quite a lot that comes up under the search term ‘Farla’ on Kiwi Farms.

              Farla mention number one: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/fanfiction-net-users.3679/page-5#post-331683

              Farla mention number two: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/fanfiction-net-users.3679/page-7#post-488526

              Farla mention number three: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/fanfiction-tropes-you-hate.34402/page-4#post-2746221

              I have no reason to lie. I am just someone who casually found this site and decided to put my two cents in.

              My opinion remains the same.

              -DLG Admin

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            11. JackPK says:
              Posts from 2014, 2015 and 2017 long predate Blaze and are obviously thus, as I said, not related. Your citation of them, though, is further suggestion that you never actually came from Kiwi Farms and simply used the search function yourself in a scramble to back up your fake cover story. No random outside observer would be combing through years-old posts to find some random fanfiction reviewer at coincidentally the same time that reviewer’s brother is under attack from an unhinged author. We’re done here, Blaze.
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            12. Farla says:

              So, when I say someone did shit, that’s proof I’m evil and a liar. When other people back me up that someone did shit, also proof I’m evil and a liar. When other people say I did shit, ironclad proof I’m evil and a liar. Where are these screenshots of what I actually said on Das Sporking, as opposed to the word of someone who already has an ax to grind and is going on about how my writing is objectively awful? That sure sounds like bullying, oh uninvolved one. In fact, isn’t sporking behind people’s back including saying I should to get fucked with a cactus already worse than anything everyone combined has said I’ve done?

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              1. Act says:

                This is unrelated, but the das_sporking revenge-spork drama remains one of my favorite things that’s ever happened.

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              2. Farla says:

                It is hilarious. “She’s evil because we were busy calling her fic garbage for petty and stupid reasons, and she noticed and we freaked out and tried to hide as much of the evidence as we could!!!”

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            13. DLGAdmin says:
              I have nothing against Farla or the other people on this site.

              I do take issue with these people accusing me of being an alt of Blaze or the other people associated with him, when I am not.

              I also take issue with people accusing a particular user of FanFiction.Net of making alt accounts on your blog, just because you think it is impossible for someone to have a different opinion than yours.

              And I take issue with being called a liar when all I have done is read this blog out of curiosity after reading some stuff about it on other sites.

              There’s no crime against reading a blog and leaving a comment. :’) I have the right to voice an opinion like everyone else.

              As I mentioned earlier, even if this Blaze person has alt accounts on other sites, there are no rules preventing him from doing so. I’ve read through the rules of Deviant Art, FanFiction.Net, FictionPress.com, and other sites a lot of times and have never seen any rule that says you can’t make an alt account.

              In fact, the only time an alt account is called into question usually has to do with bans. For example, if someone is banned and makes an alt account, then the alt account will often get banned as well (per the rules of these sites).

              So the fact that there are so many people attacking this Blaze person for making alternate accounts on other sites seems kind of like bullying and harassment to me.

              I also read some of the reviews you left on other people’s stories. I personally disagree with your method of leaving reviews. I think they can often be interpreted as condescending and an attack against the writer. I have a right to voice my opinion about this.

              I will emphasize that I have nothing personal against Farla as a person or the people of this site as people. I do think it is rather low to attack people just because they disagree with your review methods and your tendency to accuse others of making alt accounts when it doesn’t even matter if they do (there are no site rules against it).

              So I am just voicing my opinion. That’s all. You are entitled to your own opinion as well.

              -DLG Admin

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            14. Talarc says:

              I also take issue with people accusing a particular user of FanFiction.Net of making alt accounts on your blog, just because you think it is impossible for someone to have a different opinion than yours.

              So, I’m trying to work out if you’re being wilfully ignorant or not.

              If you scroll back through this blog, you’ll find hundreds upon hundreds of recored author responses to Farla and Elmo’s reviews. Even just looking at this page, it’s laughable that you’ve come to the conclusion that we think it’s impossible for people to have a different opinion to us. 

              It’s normal for people to diasgree with us. It’s Blaze’s unhealthy obsession that concerns us. 

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            15. DLGAdmin says:
              I haven’t seen a single comment by Blaze on this blog. In fact, someone else shared a link where Blaze supposedly made a bunch of comments. I didn’t see their comments on that blog either. Perhaps I am missing something.

              In any case, wandering into this blog, it just appeared as though a bunch of people were attacking Blaze for no reason. That’s when I started to read every comment and try to form my own opinions.

              So far, I have seen nothing that backs up the claim that Blaze left a bunch of comments on this blog or other blogs.

              But I’m just a casual observer to all of this. So I could be wrong.

              -DLG Admin

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            16. Talarc says:

              I haven’t seen a single comment by Blaze on this blog.

              That’s the thing about sock accounts…

              I suppose it might seem a little odd to someone joining at this stage, but we’ve had Blaze shouting at us for almost three months now – you learn to recognise the patterns after a while. 

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            17. DLGAdmin says:
              Assuming someone has a sock account and someone making a sock account actively using that sock account are two very different things.

              So far, from what I have read in this comment section, no one has provided any proper proof that Blaze has been using alts to comment on this blog.

              I actually think is might be interesting if you CAN prove this. But so far, the only argument I have heard is, ‘this person sounds like Blaze’.

              Well no offense, but plenty of people on this blog also sound like Farla. But I’m not making any assumptions that she is using alt accounts to make replies. That wouldn’t be fair or based in any proof.

              -DLG Admin

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              1. Act says:

                Blaze isn’t the sharpest tool in the shed, and early on wasn’t bothering to mask her IP or change her email when she commented under different names. Also, her phenomenally recognizable broken English is really, really obvious.

                Maybe consider that if like a dozen people are telling you something is true there’s not some crazy conspiracy but actual lived experience behind it. At this point you’re just gaslighting commentors and it’s a shitty way to treat people.

            18. Here’s the comment confirming “Cerrie” as Blaze, and here’s the comment confirming she uses sockpuppets. We should probably mark this down somewhere.

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            19. Assuming someone has a sock account and someone making a sock account actively using that sock account are two very different things.

              That’s very true, accusations against someone does not prove they did the thing. Boy, it sure would look bad if you said this while making that exact mistake.

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            20. Observer says:

              To DLG Admin,

              As an outsider to this whole mess, I believe that Farla’s team is obsessed about proving the existence of Blaze’s alts because they think that Blaze is working on her own and created the majority of this pointless conflict. A leader in any type of conflict needs confirmation, supporters who agree with his/her views. The more people that agree, the more powerful he/she becomes, and the more influence he/she holds for enforcing their own cause. If no one else believes Blaze, then she is ‘wrong’. If she has any people that agree with her, then maybe the points that she wants to prove are right and Farla’s team is wrong. Also, she could use a deceptive tactic by confirming with her alternative accounts that Farla’s team has done something ‘wrong’ to her. Maybe it’s just Blaze. Maybe she just wants a fight to inflate her ego. I don’t know about that and I don’t want to jump to any conclusions yet. All I know is that i am interested in gathering more information (and by that, I mean solid proof) to help solve the conflict so each side can go on their separate ways with some sort of compromise.

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              1. Farla says:

                No, we’re stating facts. Go back a handful of posts for before I started banning the dozen names posting under a single IP address. Or, you know, look at the screenshots of the reviews.

                Tons of people have disagreed with me, many of them right here on this blog. No one here has ever claimed numbers make you right. If Blaze had a pack of actual friends, her behavior would still be appalling and if this totally-uninvolved-person was actually totally uninvolved, it’d still be disgusting that he’s fine taking random gossip about me as fact while accusing us of slandering Blaze by pointing out what she’s currently doing in plain sight.

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            21. Hyatt says:
              Why would anyone claim to have come from Kiwi Farms? That’s basically admitting that you’re a harassing shithead.
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            22. DLGAdmin says:
              Judging someone by a site they use seems rather close-minded.

              That would be like if I judged you because you use FanFiction.Net or some of the other fan sites you are on. Which of course, I will not. Because that would be unfair.

              But hey. That is just my opinion.

              -DLG Admin

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            23. Hyatt says:
              And yet you’re judging people based on their use of this site, which is about media criticism. Why is that an okay judgment, but judging people who hang out at a site devoted to harassing what they consider easy targets for their own amusement isn’t okay?
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            24. Keleri says:

              Judging someone by a site they use seems rather close-minded.

              lol, this is really you being deliberately obtuse or you don’t actually use Kiwi Farms. (maybe both?) Kiwi Farms’ entire raison d’etre is harrassing and stalking internet personages.

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      2. Ghost says:

        Can attest to her not caring about the writers. I know someone who asked her not to counter review when Saint wrote the review on their story and she counter reviewed him anyway.

        It’s like nothing else matters to her except picking fights with Saint and the others.

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    3. Hyatt says:

      I’m pretty sure that fanfiction.net has a rule against harassing site members for no reason.

      The only reason people seem to be harrasing the fanfiction.net users is because they didn’t agree with your review style.

      I think you have your facts backwards.

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      1. DLGAdmin says:
        Reading through this site it seems to contain a lot of comments and blogs attacking various FanFiction.Net users.

        Various site members rally against whatever drama is brought up concerning various FanFiction.Net authors either in the blogs or the site comment sections.

        That kind of seems like a form of harassment to me.

        -DLG Admin

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        1. Roc says:
          [Reading through this site it seems to contain a lot of comments and blogs attacking various FanFiction.Net users.]

          I’m sorry to ask, but I don’t get what you mean by this. What is your definition of “attack”? 

          I’m not trying to be mean – I’m honestly confused. Why are you so focused on everyone on this blog commenting that certain authors are overreacting (when they are) rather than the fact that someone threathened Elmo over something as trivial as fanfiction writing?

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          1. DLGAdmin says:
            There is plenty of evidence to support the fact that Farla is bullying many FanFiction.Net users for essentially no reason.

            This link here is very telling: https://onewingedmuse.deviantart.com/journal/Fanfiction-Troll-229048457

            You should read the mulitudes of comments made in reply to that blog post which detail Farla’s harassment towards them.

            -DLG Admin

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            1. guest says:
              You do realize that linking to a 9 year-old post that was resurrected by someone who also appears to have a grudge against the people who run this blog (a lazy skim https://www.fimfiction.net/blog/807195/stop-asking-about-my-stories , a blog posted by someone who has the same FiM fanfics as 37a8, the only person to comment on that post in over a year) and who conveniently started their anger at the exact same  time Dragon’s Blaze did… doesn’t really help with your case that you’re an unbiased bystander who’s just now looking for holistic perspective. 

               

              Furthermore, I honestly don’t see much there that provides evidence for why anyone here bullied anyone there. I could write a post saying I am personally victimized by Regina George, but that doesn’t inherently make it evidence.

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            2. DLGAdmin says:
              If you actually spend the time reading through the comments, you will find quite a lot of people who talk about how they have been bullied and harassed by Farla. There are 50+comments on that Deviant Art post. They are worth reading through. It paints a sort of picture. Also the person who posted that entry on Deviant Art posted a link to a Live Journal where Farla basically admits to trolling to Pokemon community. This is highlighted in the intial post. I’m not sure why anyone is talking about this. But I’ll let it slide.

              There are actually many posts out there that highlight Farla’s bullying an harassment of other users. Here are many more of such posts.

              Here’s an entire thread on Reddit where people talk about the bullying and harassment of both Farla and St. Elmo’s Fire: https://www.reddit.com/r/FanFiction/comments/65ll0j/pokemon_fandom_reviews/

              This entire forum is filled with people who talk about your harassment and bullying: https://forums.khinsider.com/fanclubs/154808-fan-dumb-critics-club-rebooted-version-42.html

              Really the list just goes on and on. But it’s not really worth sharing everything as people won’t listen anyway.

              In any case, I hope that both Farla and St. Elmo’s Fire will stop their bullying and harassment campaign against Pokemon authors on FanFiction.Net (and other sites). Bullying and harassing people is never okay.

              -DLG Admin

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            3. Act says:

              Why are you signing your comments?

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            4. Farla says:

              Because it’s super important we know this is a very real admin.

              Remember that guy whose username was Moderator and made a post about how I was in TOS breach because I wasn’t writing long enough responses to his asinine PMs?

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            5. DLGAdmin says:
              Hmmm someone who leaves a comment on your blog as an admin, might just be an admin, of some little site out there on the web. Nothing significant, of course. But some site. It’s a crazy thought. I know.

              But it is rather irrelevant to what we are discussing anyway, so that’s all that really needs to be said.

              -DLG Admin

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            6. Act says:

              Do you also sign all your text messages?

              …Mom?

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            7. DLGAdmin says:
              My mom is pretty chill and plays video games and such.

              I can’t speak for other people’s mom’s though.

              -DLG Admin

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            8. GrittyGrant says:
              I can’t speak for other people’s mom’s though.

              peoples’ and moms.

              You’re slipping a little bit. The admin in your name isn’t intimidating at all. Just tacky.

              -Handsome Rogue

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            9. DLGAdmin says:
              It’s possible for people to make typos. I am sure that you have also made typos in your life. But perhaps you are perfect and I am wrong. I’ve never met a perfect human but there is a first time for everything.

              Perhaps I put admin in my name because I am an admin of a site. It might not be as big and important as yours. I’m learning that pretty much anything that is not your site holds no importance at all. That seems to be the general attitude here. However, I do have one. That is why I sign my name that way.

              -DLG Admin

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        2. Act says:

          Reading through this site it seems to contain a lot of comments and blogs attacking various FanFiction.Net users.

          Hey! We also have lots of comments and blogs attacking real authors. I didn’t suffer through FiOS only for it to not make me a horrible person.

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          1. DLGAdmin says:
            Oh yes, I noticed that as well. Thank you for reiforcing my point. 

            -DLG Admin

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            1. Act says:

              I fully expect some meandering text walls about the merits of Wither.

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            2. DLGAdmin says:
              Roses are red, violets are blue, some people like Wither, and it’s cover too.

              -DLG Admin

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            3. If all you can muster is a milquetoast “some people like it”, it’s painfully obvious you’re just saying it to be contrary. Give us some actual detailed opinions, if nothing else it’ll be more interesting than this inane discussion.

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            4. DLGAdmin says:
              I’m more interested in hearing a well-balanced review of the book by the people of this site. No attacking the author. No attacking the writing. A fair, balanced, review.

              You guys are the experts, after all.

              -DLG Admin

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            5. So you haven’t even read the reviews. What a shame.

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            6. DLGAdmin says:
              I’ve skimmed through quite a few. I will admit that your book reviews are pretty sound. I applaud you for your efforts at least where novels/ books are concerned.

              -DLG Admin

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            7. …Oh my god, you seriously didn’t read any reviews before telling us our reviews were garbage. Wow. That sure sounds like bullying, O protector of the innocent.

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            8. DLGAdmin says:
              I did read your reviews. You fan fiction reviews. And your fan fiction reviews are rather condescending, unlike your book reviews. There’s a difference.

              To be fair, I did read many reviews written by Farla from a number of years ago. Perhaps she has evolved as a reviewer since then. But the reviews I did read came off as being rather rude towards the author and condescending.

              If she has improved her style since then, kudos to her. But I can only go off of the things I have read.

              -DLG Admin

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            9. You were also saying our book reviews were evil. I’m not sure why you think we’ll be fooled by blatantly lying when your previous comment is right there, does this work on other people?

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            10. Farla says:

              To be fair, I did read many reviews written by Farla from a number of years ago. Perhaps she has evolved as a reviewer since then. But

              So we can add “lying about having no stake in this” to the growing pile of bullshit, next to “just because I called you a bunch of lying bullies doesn’t mean I have anything against any of you” and “no no I’m not saying Blaze isn’t running an alt factory, I’m saying that’s totally fine to do, which is why it at the start of the conversation I said it was the most horrible thing in the world to accuse her of having alts”.

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            11. DLGAdmin says:
              Where did I ever say that your book reviews were evil?

              I thought I made it quite clear that I was talking about the fan fiction reviews. At least the ones I had read previously.

              If you are referring to the comment about ‘reinforcing my point’ I was referring to the fact that the way they were describing making a book review is the reviewing style I disagree with that I have seen Farla use in the past.

              Again, Farla’s reviewing style could have improved since the last time I actively read her reviews. But I am just commenting based on what I have read.

              I apologize for any confusion.

              I was also primarily talking about how people in this comment section seem to be actively seeking out and bullying anyone they suspecting of being a sock puppet account. That seems unfair to people who are just reading things and leaving comments.

              There seems to be a lot of active bullying in the comment section towards people who do not agree with your way of doing things. This doesn’t seem like a good image for your site or a fair way to treat random people passing through.

              But that’s just my opinion.

              -DLG Admin

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            12. Act says:

              actively seeking out and bullying anyone they suspecting of being a sock puppet account.

              Can you cite this? I’s hardly call talking about the person harassing us on the blog we run ‘actively seeking out’ but if you’ve seen someone harassing her I’d like to know. So far all that I’ve seen is other people coming to us to say they’ve also been harassed by her.

              Also, it’s worth noting one of her alts/friends was posting anon reviews as Elmo, so… maybe don’t take anons at face value.

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            13. Where did I ever say that your book reviews were evil?

              http://www.dragon-quill.net/the-other-pokeauthors-part-110/#comment-72741

              Gaslight us again and I will ban you.

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            14. Farla says:

              There seems to be a lot of active bullying in the comment section towards people who do not agree with your way of doing things. This doesn’t seem like a good image for your site or a fair way to treat random people passing through.

              And you just linked to a whole bunch of people saying a hell of a lot worse about me with a hell of a lot less evidence. I assume you have informed them of how very, very seriously you take such bullying and harassment?

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            15. Ember says:
              ^^^^^^ I think this comment makes too much sense for this ‘random bystander’ to actually give you a response.
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            16. DLGAdmin says:
              There actually is quite a lot of evidence when you read the reviews that have been left on their stories. And I have.

              But again, perhaps your review style has changed since then.

              However, you do have a foum here where people do seem to still be actively upset by the reviews you leave: https://www.fanfiction.net/forum/Complain-About-Farla/11834/

              Many of them are as recent as just a few months ago.

              -DLG Admin

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            17. Evidence that we… expressed an opinion, which according to you is a God-given right when Blaze is doing it.

              If you really care about this, why aren’t you taking your own advice, reporting us to the admins, and washing your hands of this?

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            18. Farla says:

              So “I read some of your reviews at some point” = ” everything mean anyone ever says about you is fact” but “screenshots showing multiple accounts are posting the same comments to stories, sometimes fucking up so badly as to post the same identical comment twice to the same story, while throwing a multi-account tantrum in the very place just linked” = “golly there’s just no evidence, why are you slandering this innocent person??? ps definitely uninvolved bystander”.

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            19. DLGAdmin says:
              I’m just putting in my two cents, based on what I witnessed going on.

              I really don’t have much more to add.

              -DLG Admin

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            20. GrittyGrant says:
              How about you take those two cents and throw them at Blaze? She’s the one doing the stalking and shitposting on peoples’ stories by giving them non-reviews that’s just supposed to be a tacky rebuttal to what St Elmo’s Fire wrote.

              She has a serious ego problem going on right now and she is too blinded by her flawed justice. She believes every writer other than her is too weak and spineless to stand up to St Elmo’s Fire’s reviews she just has to jump in and defend because that’s how low opinion she has of them. Although I’d suspect it’s a way for her to advertise herself.

              She shows more bully tendencies than anyone else here. She may be able to bully younger authors into following her, but the oment someone doens’t agree with her she grows hostile against them.

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            21. DLGAdmin says:
              I ldecided to look up some comments Blaze left on various stories. It wasn’t hard to find. As far as I can tell, all she said was that the author should keep up the good work with their writing and shouldn’t listen to any reviewer they don’t want to.

              How does that translate as bullying? She has the right to leave a comment on a story like anyone else. She doesn’t have to agree with the review methods of this site. 

              It doesn’t look like she is attacking people personally. She is just saying that she doesn’t agree with the way you make reviews. How is that a crime? Or am I messing something?

              -DLG Admin

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            22. DLGAdmin says:
              *Missing* I mean, for those who are perfect and will catch that spelling error unlike a lowly person like me who is clearly beneath you all.

              -DLG Admin

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            23. Ember says:
              You know, that friend of mine you were quoting earlier also has a weird quirk. She signs the bottom of her reviews and messages with her username.

              If this were just about a difference of opinion, that’d be one thing. But you treat authors badly. Worse than Saint. Real feedback, REAL constructive criticism is worth way more than ‘this is good’ reviews. You’ve been teaching newbie authors to block and hate anyone who gives them good advice. Sure, it might protect their feelings. All authors start out pouring their heart into their work, so any criticism hurts more than it should. But eventually people do move past that, and honest reviews are the way to help them do that, and to improve their writing as a whole. Critiques and different opinions are GOOD! That’s how real authors are born.

              You only care about hurting Saint. Your reviews aren’t real reviews, you just take what he wrote and argue with everything he says. This alone proves you don’t really care about writers the same way he does. Saint is giving a lot of his personal time to give useful reviews to people who might not get reviews at all otherwise. And sure, sometimes you add another review where you blatantly praise the story, probably to win the author over to your side, but your feelings are hollow and it shows in the way you write.

              There are a lot of kids who are gonna get their feelings hurt. If not by grammar tips from Saint, then from an actual flamer, or someone who honestly dislikes their story. But little hurts are how baby writers grow into adult authors. Anyone who’s gone through it can attest to that. And the way Saint reviews is the nicest way to give constructive criticism I’ve seen in a good long while.

              In summary: constructive reviews are the BEST kind of reviews. All authors who grew past the newbie stage know that.

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            24. Ghost says:

              Yeah. Constructive criticism is vital for improvement. If we all just wakes around going “this is good story” there would be no good stories.

              JK Rowling didn’t just write words on a piece of paper and publish that as Harry Potter. She took advantage of the constructive criticism she got on it to make it better. Same with J.R.R Tolkien with Lord of the Rings.

              Maybe we won’t all produce epic stories like that, but with advice and constructive criticism, we can make good stories that are fun to read.

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            25. Ghost says:

              *walked. Autocorrect. Ruining epic speeches since whenever autocorrect was invented

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            26. It doesn’t look like she is attacking people personally.

              She repeatedly leaves reviews that are nothing but slander against me and everyone even tangentially related to me.

              We’re done here. We have been far more tolerant than you deserve, but it ends now. You do not get to use this space as a platform to insult and gaslight people.

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  8. Ember says:
    This whole situation is highly entertaining. I doubt Blaze will ever own up to her deceptions at this point though. She’s too far in denial-land to ever come out with her precious pride intact. Just keep doing what you’re doing. You guys rock!
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      Thanks! It has been a wild, wild ride, and apparently it’s not even done yet.

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        I’m seriously impressed you guys have so much patience. I’ve only been on this comment thread for two days and I’m already pretty much done with this. I’ll definitely check back on your blog in the future, because I do appreciate your reviews, but I think I’ll tone down trying to talk to Blaze. It’s just a headache, lol.

        I also just noticed the reviews for the Dresden Files, which I love. I’ll read through those when I have a good chunk of free time, and make a real account. This blog is pretty cool.

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          I also just noticed the reviews for the Dresden Files, which I love. 

          Ah. They are…not that, I’m afraid.

          1. Ember says:
            Ah, sorry, just took a closer look. It looks more like your step by step reactions to each chapter, though I haven’t read through the whole thing yet. Still, it looks like something I might enjoy, whether you liked the book or not. Different opinions are always fun to read through, since it broadens my own perspectives.
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              Oh sure. And that I didn’t like it doesn’t mean that there’s nothing good in it. Actually, more than many things I’ve read it’s something where it feels like it’s largely a matter of “is Thing X a dealbreaker or can you ignore it to enjoy Things ABC?”

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        2. Act says:

          I’m seriously impressed you guys have so much patience. I’ve only been on this comment thread for two days and I’m already pretty much done with this.

          Despite how devoted she is, she hasn’t done anything really malicious, which makes her pretty easy to just wave off, and her ‘accusations’ have been either bizarre or absurd (‘Elmo keeps reviewing and WON’T STOP NO MATTER HOW MUCH I TELL HIM TO’ isn’t the kind of thing that hits home). She stopped hurling slurs and insults in the comments after I made it clear I’d delete those posts, and other than that, the worst she’s done is exercise the spam filter. So overall, it hasn’t really had an effect on how things proceed over here.

          I do feel bad she’s dragging random people into her crusade, but that’s squarely in the ‘I can’t manage other people’s actions’ category, so it’s not much worth losing sleep over. Eventually she’ll get reported enough that the ffnet mods will be forced to briefly exit hibernation and deal with it.

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            Question. If you report someone on the FFN site, does it tell them who reported them or no?

            1. Farla says:

              Nope. The only time any FFN users know you’re reporting at all is the forum report system, which is seen by the forum owner. I know because people will not stop using the report feature of my own forum to demand I get banned for stuff like using swears or telling people to stop being Nazi fuckers.

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  9. Act says:

    Geez, shit got weird here after I went to bed.

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  10. JackPK says:
    Has anyone else noticed that this alleged “DLGAdmin” ‘s posts all get a “like” less than 5 minutes after they’re posted? Hm, almost sounds like somebody knows exactly when they’re being posted — specifically, somebody we know who has a documented thin skin and penchant for believing a crowd of apparently “different” people bandwagoning on their opinion makes it right.
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      For better or for worse, you can upvote yourself here, so all that means is they don’t much care about making comment faux pas, which we already know.

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        Huh. I’ve experimented with it before and it didn’t appear to work for me. Maybe it’s just a matter of whether you’re in the same window/tab instance from which the post was made?
        1. Act says:

          Hmm, it works for me, but it may be an admin thing?

          1. Ember says:
            Just tried it, it works for me as well. Although there are some comments I can’t upvote, even though they’re at zero. Gotta be a glitch
    2. The exact same thing was happening on Blaze’s other posts, as well.

      Really, at this point I’m more insulted by the depths of her incompetence than anything she’s actually saying.

    3. DLGAdmin says:
      I’m still not Blaze or anyone associated with Blaze. :’)

      But it’s interesting that you think I am.

      -DLG Admin

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      1. Act says:

        I don’t think you’re Blaze — you’re far too coherent (edit: and also haven’t started yelling insults at people) — but I don’t think it’s unreasonable that people are getting paranoid. She’s been running a one-woman hate campaign blanketing the entire fandom (including PMing unrelated people) for months. Telling people they don’t have the right to take steps to protect themselves is just shitty.

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        1. DLGAdmin says:
          Even though I fundamentally disagree with many of the things I have seen taking place on this site, I will still give everyone some sound advice.

          If you think that this individual is leading a campaign against you, I would take screenshots of the messages they have sent you. I would take screenshots of any place that seems like they are using an alternate account. And once you gather the evidence, you should send all of it to the FanFiction.Net admins to look over and draw their own conclusions from.

          All that being said, from what you have described, it sounds like this person is just telling people a personal opinion about how they don’t agree with the reviews on this site. They do have the right to express their opinion on a forum, a comment section, so on just as long as it is primarily worded as an opinion and not an attack against an individual person.

          For example. I can criticize this site, it’s review methods, and the attacking that appears to go on in the comment section all I want. I’m not attacking the individuals. I am disagreeing with what I am seeing take place. There is nothing legally wrong with that. That’s how people get away with making reviews in general.

          To me, it sounds like Blaze has been very vocal about their opinion of this site and what goes on here. It really comes down to how invasive they have been with this opinion. Again, I would collect all of the information possible and send it to the FanFiction.Net admins to review. If you try to take things into your own hands, things will won’t get resolved in the proper way.

          This is just my two cents. Take it or leave it.

          -DLG Admin

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          1. send all of it to the FanFiction.Net admins to look over and draw their own conclusions from

            Okay, sure. We’ll find some way to have our descendents get back to yours.

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            1. DLGAdmin says:
              I’m not sure what this has to do with my intial comment, but okay then.

              -DLG Admin

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            2. Hyatt says:
              You’re funny, assuming the admins will actually look at it at all and not just throw it in a trash heap.
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      2. Farla says:

        So you’re simultaneously saying you’re totally not Blaze or in any way related and we’re idiots for honestly thinking you’re another alt but enraged we’re lying about the fact Blaze makes up alts when we know there’s no evidence and we’re just trying to harass her with the claims. 

        That makes even more sense than the fact you, an uninvolved person, are willing to search up decades-old posts across the internet to try to prove I’m terrible but looking at the site this is currently happening on is too much work and Blaze is definitely incredibly innocent you can tell.

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  11. DLGAdmin says:
    I genuinely am just a casual person passing through. I have no relation to Blaze or other people you are having trouble with.

    However, if you do feel like you are having trouble with certain site members, I would recommend taking screenshots of any place you feel they have left an unfair comment or bothered you in some way.

    Once you have gathered enough evidence, I would send this along to the FanFiction.Net admins to review. I think you would get a better resolution to the situation if you involved site admins who have the capability to help you out.

    That is just some of my thoughts on the situation.

    -DLG Admin

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    1. Act says:

      You’re… not familiar with how that website is run, are you? 

      Regardless, I’m not sure why they’d care about some random person spamming a random blog. 

  12. Observer says:

    I would suggest, in order to make things easier for everyone (and especially for people new to the blog), that every piece of proof (for whatever argument) should be collected and posted on a separate page in this site. That way people won’t have to look back through endless paragraphs of text to confirm what really happened and whether or not someone is lying, and discussions will flow smoother now that everyone has access to an established ‘proof’. When someone asks for the ‘proof’, simply refer them to the page and let them read it.

    I would reccomend this, especially if Blaze’s followers who blindly followed her words came and started flaming the blog without knowing your side of the argument. They probably wouldn’t be too keen on spending hours of time researching the facts either, unless it was spoon-fed to them.

    Also, as I take it, there is probably years and years’ worth of information buried in this site or linked through this site to other sources.

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    1. Ember says:
      This is actually a great idea. I think it would really cut down on some of the confusion with outsiders in the Blaze conflict, and make it easier to spot her sock puppets. (IE: any random user who defends Blaze passionately, but refuses to comment on the gathered evidence.)
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    2. JackPK says:
      There’s really only less than three months’ worth of information on this particular situation. Blaze is a very recent phenomenon, and there’s never been a sustained troll campaign before this in the 5+ years I’ve been lurking.

      Not to say that isn’t a lot of information to comb through (especially since Blaze’s sockpuppet comments here frequently cause posts to balloon to 100+ comments… like this one has), but it isn’t as much as it may seem to someone who never saw what things were like before this.

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    3. Farla says:

      especially if Blaze’s followers who blindly followed her words came and started flaming the blog without knowing your side of the argument.

      I can grab a screenshot of some comments but the thing is, the sockpuppets are only relevant in that she likes to harass people through reviews and PMs and people have been asking how many need to be banned to avoid that – and honestly, if this is multiple people somehow sharing an IP address and browser to do the same shitty things, it wouldn’t matter.

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    4. Act says:

      I think you’re seriously overestimating how interested Farla, Elmo and I are in “proving” Blaze is in the wrong. My interest in her stops at preventing her from harassing people here on my blog. I really don’t care about her or you beyond that. Just because she’s seriously obsessed with us doesn’t mean it goes two ways, as the lively discussion on non-Blaze topics here demonstrates.

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      1. Observer says:

        I understand now that Blaze isn’t as important to you. It’s just that I happened to click on this page first on the site, as I’m relatively new here. I do see you hold other progressive discussions, though.

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      2. Farla says:

        It is kind of funny, though, so I guess I might as well preserve what I’m seeing behind the scenes. Not going to try to match up the spam and trash sections as well, though.

        So, early ridiculousness posted under the same IP address:

        Then there’s Truther and Cerrie together, with Truther additionally sharing an email address with Blaze above.

        Here’s just some extra silliness where Stone responds to being called an alt by having a different alt come in to say that we’re being ridiculous.

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        1. Observer says:

          I would say she’s either trolling or being stubborn enough to not follow your grammar/spelling suggestions considering how bad hers is.

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  13. Ghost says:

    She’s throwing a tantrum in a forum because people are accusing “A dozen users” of being her.

     

    I swear she’s doing this for attention. She’s been advised to let it go but is insistent that “they can’t get away with it.” There’s your way out dude, take it :p

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    1. Farla says:

      She really loves that forum! That’s at least the third time I’ve heard “hey, check it out, Blaze is trying to start shit with you over there!” It’s weird because they apparently have really airtight no-fucking-drama rules in place, and mods actively enforcing it. You’d think she’d move to greener pastures already.

      1. Ghost says:

        She did try to link the blog and got the link torpedoed by a mod for naming and shaming. And then the other users of the thread called her out for whinging and on how Ist suddenly appeared ranting about people after the link for the blog got torpedoed.

         

        On the bright side, no one took her side and they promptly called her out for trying to drag the forum into a fight xD

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          1. GrittyGrant says:
            I wonder how long  until someone speaks up about her style of counter-reviewing St Elmo’s Fire’s reviews? Doesn’t seem to be mentioned. That could blow a hole in her reasoning that she’s being targeted should people point out how she (and lstwill, assuming that is an individual person) has been constantly targeting stories St Elmo’s Fire has reviewed and proceeded to call him an idiot and a jerk.

            And as for that forum, whoever made that fresh account to openly accuse Blaze of having sock reviews came off as way too hasty. Speculation is one thing. Accusation another. Clumsy clumsy!

            1. GrittyGrant says:
              That is, in the “Does review measure success” topic.
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            2. Farla says:

              And as for that forum, whoever made that fresh account to openly accuse Blaze of having sock reviews came off as way too hasty. Speculation is one thing. Accusation another. Clumsy clumsy!

              Yeah, I can understand why someone wouldn’t want to speak under their own account but they should’ve realized that they’re on a forum with little to no connection to what Blaze is doing and that’s not going to be obvious to anyone there. The sockpuppet aspect is the most minor part of this – it, and the fact people feel they need to make socks of their own to respond, are only understandable in the context of Blaze’s existing harassment campaign.

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    2. Keleri says:

      I wonder if she tried reddit again, she got a bunch of attention there earlier which emboldened the bad behavior over here.

      1. Embershine says:

        She’s on Reddit too? This girl really needs a hobby…unless…this IS her hobby. Yelling into the void of the internet about strangers who upset you is a very productive way to waste time.

        *Ember’s new real login account*

        1. Farla says:

          She is not only on Reddit, but given the account that was posting about us had done almost nothing before, she apparently has a bunch of alts over there. She also seems to have at least two accounts over on Fimfiction.

          So yeah, sockpuppet plays appears to be her real hobby and fandom is just a convenient stage to set it on.

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